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Old 03-25-2008   #1
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Thumbs down I need some help with B&B Problems.

I have the Old system with resonance except for the Resonator itself which is the new design. I bought a pair of mufflers off the CF forum that are newer. I called B&B and they said it would take care of the resonance. Now goldcylon is saying it is the Exit pipes....So WHICH IS IT? I am tired of getting jerked around. I have almost $500 tied up in something I may already have. I need a consensus before I spend any more money.
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Old 03-25-2008   #2
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

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I have the Old system with resonance except for the Resonator itself which is the new design. I bought a pair of mufflers off the CF forum that are newer. I called B&B and they said it would take care of the resonance. Now goldcylon is saying it is the Exit pipes....So WHICH IS IT? I am tired of getting jerked around. I have almost $500 tied up in something I may already have. I need a consensus before I spend any more money.
Actually I said its the combination of both the new style resonator and the grilled exit pipes. The changes to the mufflers were very suttle. The real pisser is none of the technical data is on thier website for obvious trade secret reasons. Since the "real" data cant be seen we turn to what has visually changed in the design over the last 19 years. The resonator and the grilled exit pipes has been the two major changes. And new B&B system owners swear buy the results vs the older style system.
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Old 03-25-2008   #3
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

if the Cones on the exit pipes also help with resonance, why not just buy the Cones then?

Summit sells just the cones

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...DS=1&N=700+115
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Old 03-25-2008   #4
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

I already have the new resonator installed. Can I buy the exit pipes from them? How much are they?
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Old 03-25-2008   #5
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

if i might ask a? or 2 .how far out do your exhaust tipps stick?how mmuch clearence do you have fro that metal brace in the rear vanance?our exhaust systems i found are like a tuning fork .aftermarket hanger are too thin in the rear rubber mounts . also one should make the tipp go 2-3 in past the opening and at least 10-12mm oif clearence under the rear end that metsl brace . you might ck rons thread here on has anyone removced the mufflers.in it i shared what i did to stop my problem. a friend thats a noise control engineer actually helped me stop my problem. hope this helps . good luck .
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

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I already have the new resonator installed. Can I buy the exit pipes from them? How much are they?
I doubt it but Jeff is on target heres the cone ad from summit

Dynatech Vortex Insert Cones
Don't get caught by the sound police.

Rules--they're everywhere. When it comes to sound requirements, they can't be ignored. Don't take chances with sound control, or you may end up on the trailer. Vortex cone inserts from Dynatech easily install near the exit of the header collector or muffler outlet to reflect and dissipate sound energy, reducing the decibel level. Because the open area of the cones is greater than the area of the collector or exhaust pipe, there's no significant backpressure, so you reduce noise with little or no power loss. The cones are made from T-304 stainless steel and weigh less than 1/2 lb. each.

Well Harold...... I think im on target as well. D
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Old 03-25-2008   #7
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

I will do both the cones and the mufflers. Just go toff the phone with B&B and they said the mufflers will help. I assume I need the 3 inch cones.

BTW, I live in Mississippi. No smog regulation nothing. When I get an inspection sticker, they check the lights, horn and wipers..pay $5 and roll. I don't have to worry about that stupid crap around here...I loved it when I had my Z06 (staright exhaust headers no cats=D>)
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

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I will do both the cones and the mufflers. Just go toff the phone with B&B and they said the mufflers will help. I assume I need the 3 inch cones.

BTW, I live in Mississippi. No smog regulation nothing. When I get an inspection sticker, they check the lights, horn and wipers..pay $5 and roll. I don't have to worry about that stupid crap around here...I loved it when I had my Z06 (staright exhaust headers no cats=D>)
I wish we could go that route in AZ but that isnt going to happen
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Old 03-25-2008   #9
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

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if i might ask a? or 2 .how far out do your exhaust tipps stick?how mmuch clearence do you have fro that metal brace in the rear vanance?our exhaust systems i found are like a tuning fork .aftermarket hanger are too thin in the rear rubber mounts . also one should make the tipp go 2-3 in past the opening and at least 10-12mm oif clearence under the rear end that metsl brace . you might ck rons thread here on has anyone removced the mufflers.in it i shared what i did to stop my problem. a friend thats a noise control engineer actually helped me stop my problem. hope this helps . good luck .


This is BEFORE the new style resonator was installed...but gives a better angle of the tips
http://www.fototime.com/36BD3988FC84C1D/conv.wmv
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Old 03-25-2008   #10
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Default Re: I need some help with B&B Problems.

The new B&B system is pretty quiet inside and out. (mufflers/resonator)
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