Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Hammer · 02-18-2008

I am installing the small tube Watson's this coming weekend (no cats at this point). I have the standard tune Haibeck chip. Anybody had that chip in and installed these headers? If so, did you have to have your Haibeck chip recalibrated for this install or was the chip OK?

I have the following mods:
Open Air Cleaner Lid and K & N Filter
Haibeck Standard Calibration Chip for a '91
Flowmaster #17115 Cat Back Exhaust

Z Factor · 02-18-2008

As I recall the chip needs to be re-calibrated for headers. His standard chip reduces fuel by 3% since the stock chip is rich at 6%. However for headers that would be where he returns it to.
This is one of the few things Mark does that I am not crazy about in that you need to pay extra to return the chip to 6% after he reduced it to 3%. He also has a "anti backfire" calibration for headers which he charges more for on top of his prices.
I think he should have at least a few chips for a header mod instead of having to re-calibrate and charge extra for it.

FU · 02-18-2008

Give Marc a call about the chip.
Swain coat your headers also. You'll like it .

Hammer · 02-18-2008

Z and Fu, thanks for the input. I am looking for some realtime experience with this if possible. I plan on installing the headers and driving it to see if the recal is needed, checking plugs too. I have had good luck with Marc's chip as far as my current setup goes.

02-18-2008

You can get it redone by marc, although it's not needed right away. but if you get it sent out now, he can have it back to before you get it done.

Hammer · 02-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Jeffvette

You can get it redone by marc, although it's not needed right away. but if you get it sent out now, he can have it back to before you get it done.

Good point, thanks. I think I'll give him a call.

Hammer · 02-18-2008

Just called Marc, sending the chip off today. Thanks guys.

Z Factor · 02-18-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer

Just called Marc, sending the chip off today. Thanks guys.

Did he adjust it for the headers and anti-backfire, and if so did he charge extra as he has in the past?

Hammer · 02-18-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z Factor

Did he adjust it for the headers and anti-backfire, and if so did he charge extra as he has in the past?

Yes and yes.

XfireZ51 · 02-18-2008

I had a Marc Randolph chip in my car when I added Watson headers. I found that I needed to reduce the timing due to eliminate the knock retard. After putting the headers on, the trap speed didn't change. The ECM was backing off the timing. After modifying the Sprak Advance tables, I was able to pick up about 4mph in trap speed. FYI. I would do a "before" and "after" and a scan.

02-18-2008	#2
Z Factor Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: S. Florida Posts: 2,647	Re: Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip As I recall the chip needs to be re-calibrated for headers. His standard chip reduces fuel by 3% since the stock chip is rich at 6%. However for headers that would be where he returns it to. This is one of the few things Mark does that I am not crazy about in that you need to pay extra to return the chip to 6% after he reduced it to 3%. He also has a "anti backfire" calibration for headers which he charges more for on top of his prices. I think he should have at least a few chips for a header mod instead of having to re-calibrate and charge extra for it.

02-18-2008	#3
FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,327	Re: Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip Give Marc a call about the chip. Swain coat your headers also. You'll like it .

02-18-2008	#4
Hammer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ideho Posts: 2,647	Re: Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip Z and Fu, thanks for the input. I am looking for some realtime experience with this if possible. I plan on installing the headers and driving it to see if the recal is needed, checking plugs too. I have had good luck with Marc's chip as far as my current setup goes.

02-18-2008	#5
Jeffvette Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip You can get it redone by marc, although it's not needed right away. but if you get it sent out now, he can have it back to before you get it done.

02-18-2008	#7
Hammer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ideho Posts: 2,647	Re: Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip Just called Marc, sending the chip off today. Thanks guys.

02-18-2008	#1
Hammer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ideho Posts: 2,647	Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip I am installing the small tube Watson's this coming weekend (no cats at this point). I have the standard tune Haibeck chip. Anybody had that chip in and installed these headers? If so, did you have to have your Haibeck chip recalibrated for this install or was the chip OK? I have the following mods: Open Air Cleaner Lid and K & N Filter Haibeck Standard Calibration Chip for a '91 Flowmaster #17115 Cat Back Exhaust

02-18-2008	#10
XfireZ51 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 9,683	Re: Watson Headers/Haibeck Chip I had a Marc Randolph chip in my car when I added Watson headers. I found that I needed to reduce the timing due to eliminate the knock retard. After putting the headers on, the trap speed didn't change. The ECM was backing off the timing. After modifying the Sprak Advance tables, I was able to pick up about 4mph in trap speed. FYI. I would do a "before" and "after" and a scan.