Doing Plug Cuts - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

XfireZ51 · 03-31-2012

So while waiting for the top end to come back from the paint shop, "idle hands are the blah blah blah...". Decided to replace spark plugs and while I was at it do some plug cuts. Plug cuts are where you remove the threaded collar of the plug to reveal the lower part of the ceramic insulation. This is what you do to tell what is really going on in the AFR department. As rpm and load increase, the burn characteristics of the AFR moves down towards the bottom of the insulation casing.

Here's what I found:

Also, looking at the #2 cylinder, I found the primary valve perfectly clean
while the secondary and most of the other valves had the expected carbon build up on the back face of the valve.

Injectors??

Paul Workman · 03-31-2012

It appears #2 & 4 are running rich? And, #7 looks to be lean, no?

Hmmmmm.... when were the injectors last replaced???

P.

FU · 03-31-2012

Sure look's like injectors. Get them flow tested while it's still apart.

GOLDCYLON · 03-31-2012

Got to be the injectors. What brand are they?

HAWAIIZR-1 · 03-31-2012

Great stuff Dom. Thanks for sharing and very interesting information.

XfireZ51 · 03-31-2012

Guys,

The injectors are Accels. The pattern of clean primary valve is pretty consistent throughout the other cylinders. I think it demonstrates the diff between injectors being on constantly and turning On/Off. My secondaries come on
w >1.17% TPS. Suggests that the carboning may be due primarily to idle.
I decided to swap the secondary injectors between 1-2, and 7-4.
See if it balances things out. Likely get motor together and head to dyno.
Then pull plugs again on those cylinders and see.

03-31-2012	#1
XfireZ51 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 9,685	Doing Plug Cuts So while waiting for the top end to come back from the paint shop, "idle hands are the blah blah blah...". Decided to replace spark plugs and while I was at it do some plug cuts. Plug cuts are where you remove the threaded collar of the plug to reveal the lower part of the ceramic insulation. This is what you do to tell what is really going on in the AFR department. As rpm and load increase, the burn characteristics of the AFR moves down towards the bottom of the insulation casing. Here's what I found: Also, looking at the #2 cylinder, I found the primary valve perfectly clean while the secondary and most of the other valves had the expected carbon build up on the back face of the valve. Injectors??

03-31-2012	#3
FU Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Found Member Posts: 4,327	Re: Doing Plug Cuts Sure look's like injectors. Get them flow tested while it's still apart.

03-31-2012	#4
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03-31-2012	#5
HAWAIIZR-1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 3,100	Re: Doing Plug Cuts Great stuff Dom. Thanks for sharing and very interesting information. __________________ Craig "ZR-1 NO KA 'OI" "ZR-1 ICHIBAN" 1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads ZR-1 owner since September 2003 ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074 NCM Lifetime Member #2048

03-31-2012	#6
XfireZ51 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 9,685	Re: Doing Plug Cuts Guys, The injectors are Accels. The pattern of clean primary valve is pretty consistent throughout the other cylinders. I think it demonstrates the diff between injectors being on constantly and turning On/Off. My secondaries come on w >1.17% TPS. Suggests that the carboning may be due primarily to idle. I decided to swap the secondary injectors between 1-2, and 7-4. See if it balances things out. Likely get motor together and head to dyno. Then pull plugs again on those cylinders and see.

03-31-2012	#2
Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,466	Re: Doing Plug Cuts It appears #2 & 4 are running rich? And, #7 looks to be lean, no? Hmmmmm.... when were the injectors last replaced??? P.