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Old 02-20-2011   #1
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Default Hurst shifter problem

I've installed quite a few shifters--this one included on a buddy's car. The fulcrum bushing has disintegrated.

Symptom: wobbling shifter fore/aft and up/down.




Anyone else had a Hurst shifter go bad?

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Old 02-20-2011   #2
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Default Re: Hurst shifter problem

I have a hurst short throw shifter and have not had any issues although my Z sees limited mileage.

The only thing I noticed with the Hurst is I have to be careful through the gates. The pattern seems to be different then stock. (I know its a shorter throw- I don't mean that)

It's slightly different or maybe its the fact that I don't drive that shifter that much.

I shift gears in my other C4 (standard shifter) and C5 with blazing speed but I find it the Z be finicky? Anyone else?

Maybe I'm just not used to the throws......

I would call Hurst, looks like you will get a new shifter.

Maybe talk to Bill @ ZF6.
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Old 02-20-2011   #3
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Default Re: Hurst shifter problem

I have one that I was thinking about using in the gto, but that is a deal breaker for me. I never had any issue with the stock throw, just the height.

Thanks for sharing, I will just cut the length down on the stock one now.
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Old 02-20-2011   #4
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There's a bit of notchiness to the Hurst that I actually like. Gives me a more positive feel when shifting gears. Because its a shorter throw, the effort is a bit higher but it shouldn't be hanging up. That usually points to
clutch or more likely master/slave cylinder issues. You'd be surprised what changing fluid on a regular basis does to the smoothness of the shift. Check your clutch fluid. If its black, it needs changing quickly. Also check your slave cylinder to make sure you don't have one of those with the inverted plunger.
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Old 02-20-2011   #5
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I have a hurst short throw shifter and have not had any issues although my Z sees limited mileage.

The only thing I noticed with the Hurst is I have to be careful through the gates. The pattern seems to be different then stock. (I know its a shorter throw- I don't mean that)

It's slightly different or maybe its the fact that I don't drive that shifter that much.

I shift gears in my other C4 (standard shifter) and C5 with blazing speed but I find it the Z be finicky? Anyone else?

Maybe I'm just not used to the throws......

I would call Hurst, looks like you will get a new shifter.

Maybe talk to Bill @ ZF6.
the detent springs and balls may be worn . i have a hurst shifter in my white car which also has one of bill blueprinted trannys in it and it shifts like butter still after putting 75k miles on it . this is just one of the things that bill fixes in his trannys . when i drag race iknow without a doubt that when i shift from 2nd to third that it will only go into third not 5th like the stk tranny . i will say this again one of bills trannys is without a doubt THE BEST MOD i have made to both my cars . find a way to get yours to him and when you get it back you will know what i mean
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Old 02-20-2011   #6
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It works fine and is definitely more knotchy.

I shift fine with it, I guess to put it another way, I don't shift quite as hard. Sometimes it's hoaky as are 6th and reverse since reverse lockout gets disabled. Sometimes I catch 6th when I need reverse. I think if I drove it more, it would be no issue. Kinda like when you switch from c5 to c4 , it seems odd lifting up lock out button.

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Old 02-20-2011   #7
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the detent springs and balls may be worn . i have a hurst shifter in my white car which also has one of bill blueprinted trannys in it and it shifts like butter still after putting 75k miles on it . this is just one of the things that bill fixes in his trannys . when i drag race iknow without a doubt that when i shift from 2nd to third that it will only go into third not 5th like the stk tranny . i will say this again one of bills trannys is without a doubt THE BEST MOD i have made to both my cars . find a way to get yours to him and when you get it back you will know what i mean
I never hit 5th with the stock trans and shifter when shifting into third in my old Z. I have never even felt this to be an issue. Is this a common occurrence with the stock setup?

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Old 02-20-2011   #8
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I never hit 5th with the stock trans and shifter when shifting into third in my old Z. I have never even felt this to be an issue. Is this a common occurrence with the stock setup?
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Old 02-20-2011   #9
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all depends how worn the detent are . it didnt happen often before switching trannys but after the switch i couldnt believe the diff. the notchy shifting was gone . the reworking he does on the syncros and the exact clearences the gears have make all the difference . when its right there is not a hint of it being notchy . more guys with cameros have a problem with shifting into 5th than we do but as the miles pile up it can happen more as it did with me when i aproached 50k miles on my 90. i now have 155k on the 90 and she is still shifting as good as the day bill put it in . one other thing of note when you switch to 392-and up gears the main shaft oiling doesnt keep up and can cause a gear to lock to the shaft .which it did on my 90 after only 10k miles with the 410s . bill could go into greater detail about this i am just going off memory
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Old 02-20-2011   #10
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my hurst short throw shifter is what i would describe as notchy

i wish i had just had the stock one, shortened
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