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Old 04-17-2010   #1
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Default Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

Curious about two things;

1: Never having pulled an engine on one of these things, it seems like a pretty straightforward 2 hour or so job. Would it be easier just to pull the engine, go over everything while it is out, install the headers and replace (I have a full shop with lift, hoists, stands, etc.

2: SS told me that all they use for "header gaskets" is red high temp rtv . I have done a lot of fab on exhaust headers/turbo manifolds, and have never heard of such things. Typically I will purchase metal shim gaskets, or make multi layer ones myself. What do you guys suggest, are they dead on with their suggestion? I am not calling them out for anything, but it just doesn't seem "right" to me, but I do not know much about these engines at this point.
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Old 04-17-2010   #2
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

With these cars people are going to tell you things that dont quite make sense.Ive heard there is no gasket used with the headers.Ive got headers on a 64 Nova and I was told to use the same sealer for gaskets.Its been a few years and Ive had no issues.
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Old 04-17-2010   #3
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

You definitely want to install your headers with a new set of gaskets.
http://jerrysgaskets.com/store2/root...products_id=38

You should also get a dipstick tube seal from Jerry while you're at it.
http://jerrysgaskets.com/store2/root...products_id=40

You will also most likely need O2 sensor extensions and need to fab up a bracket for your dipstick tube. Check these threads for more info:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread....9279#post59279
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread....light=dipstick
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Old 04-17-2010   #4
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

Thanks scott. Does jerry offer a "full" engine gasket kit? I would like to orer a couple just to keep them onhand. Do you also recommend the bolt upgrade he offers? What else would you recommend keeping on hand for this thing?

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You definitely want to install your headers with a new set of gaskets.
http://jerrysgaskets.com/store2/root...products_id=38

You should also get a dipstick tube seal from Jerry while you're at it.
http://jerrysgaskets.com/store2/root...products_id=40

You will also most likely need O2 sensor extensions and need to fab up a bracket for your dipstick tube. Check these threads for more info:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread....9279#post59279
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread....light=dipstick
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Old 04-17-2010   #5
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

You should shoot Jerry an email or PM him (A26B). Jerry has whatever you need or can point you in the right direction.

He and others here are much more knowledgeable than myself. I couln't offer broad recommendations.

But I think I have a new set of Stage 8 header bolts I'd sell for $45 shipped if you're interested.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/STG-8908/
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Old 04-17-2010   #6
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

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You should shoot Jerry an email or PM him (A26B). Jerry has whatever you need or can point you in the right direction.

He and others here are much more knowledgeable than myself. I couln't offer broad recommendations.

But I think I have a new set of Stage 8 header bolts I'd sell for $45 shipped if you're interested.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/STG-8908/
I just ordered a whole slew of gaskets from his site to keep ready. I could have sworn that I saw an upgrade bolt kit for the cam covers on his site, but I couldn't find them.

I may be interested in those bolts, but at this point I am not sure what comes with them and what doesn't.
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Old 04-17-2010   #7
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

the bolt kit replaces the torks bolts on the plenum and cam covers ,they are stainless bolts also , remember to get the dowdy washer that go under the bolts on the cam covers or you will leak oil every where
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ps they are allen bolts which we like better than the torks bolts which like to mess up if you dont get the torks socket in there perfectly
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

you can get the Stainless Allen Head bolts from McMaster Carr.. I got mine there.. I also have a post with the PN somewhere here
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Old 04-17-2010   #10
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Default Re: Ok, I ordered my headers from ss

these cover, plenum to IH, Coolant tubes and Cam covers:

QTY 48 Metric 18-8 SS Socket Head Cap Screw M8 Thread, 55mm Length, 1.25mm Pitch, Packs of 10 (min quantity 5) 91292A156

QTY 8 Metric 18-8 SS Socket Head Cap Screw M6 Thread, 50mm Length, 1mm Pitch, Packs of 25 (min quantity 1) 91292A144

QTY 12 Metric 18-8 SS Socket Head Cap Screw M8 Thread, 25mm Length, 1.25mm Pitch, Packs of 25 (min quantity 1) 91292A148

QTY 6 Metric 18-8 SS Socket Head Cap Screw M6 Thread, 25mm Length, 1mm Pitch, Packs of 50 (min quantity 1) 91292A138

Also suggested:

Bolts for TB Cover and TB as well as Air Horn, Bolts for MAP Sensor and Throttle cable hold down
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