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Old 02-01-2010   #1
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Default '91 missing and would like a second opinnion

I was hoping I could have figured this one out, but after a bunch of diagnostics I'm not really sure where to look next. So I would appreciate your guys second opinion.

At this point I have already measured, coils, wires and injectors and they are all perfect and also less than 1 year old. Also installed new plugs and they all look fine after my test runs. Also I do not get a check engine light.
Car starts fine and runs perfect on idle. As soon as it warms up even a little bit the idle becomes rough and I start to hear occasional knock. when I take off it runs like a 70's vette at start and sometimes starts running smooth when I hit about 2000rpm. When I get it running normally under a steady throttle it runs fine, but starts stuttering when I step on it.

So I'm wondering if O2 sensors could cause this and not give a check engine light or could it be the fuel pump?
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Old 02-01-2010   #2
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I was hoping I could have figured this one out, but after a bunch of diagnostics I'm not really sure where to look next. So I would appreciate your guys second opinion.

At this point I have already measured, coils, wires and injectors and they are all perfect and also less than 1 year old. Also installed new plugs and they all look fine after my test runs. Also I do not get a check engine light.
Car starts fine and runs perfect on idle. As soon as it warms up even a little bit the idle becomes rough and I start to hear occasional knock. when I take off it runs like a 70's vette at start and sometimes starts running smooth when I hit about 2000rpm. When I get it running normally under a steady throttle it runs fine, but starts stuttering when I step on it.

So I'm wondering if O2 sensors could cause this and not give a check engine light or could it be the fuel pump?
Are you running factory original injectors? One form of injector failure occurs when injectors warm up. When cold, they operate fine.
Your symtom is similar to what I had.
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Default Re: '91 missing and would like a second opinnion

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I was hoping I could have figured this one out, but after a bunch of diagnostics I'm not really sure where to look next. So I would appreciate your guys second opinion.

At this point I have already measured, coils, wires and injectors and they are all perfect and also less than 1 year old. Also installed new plugs and they all look fine after my test runs. Also I do not get a check engine light.
Car starts fine and runs perfect on idle. As soon as it warms up even a little bit the idle becomes rough and I start to hear occasional knock. when I take off it runs like a 70's vette at start and sometimes starts running smooth when I hit about 2000rpm. When I get it running normally under a steady throttle it runs fine, but starts stuttering when I step on it.

So I'm wondering if O2 sensors could cause this and not give a check engine light or could it be the fuel pump?
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Took me 3 years and more $ than I'd like to admit, but in the end, about $5 worth of pins and a hour or so took care of my misfire.
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10828
Bottom line is, did you or your mechanic use the Haibec method of checking the Ohms of the old resistors? And when you did so, did you stick the probe of the volt meter directly into the ECM plug?
I did and paid the price.
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Old 02-01-2010   #4
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Default Re: '91 missing and would like a second opinnion

It's has only about year old Accel injectors, MSD coils, MSD wires and I had never pulled the ECM connector until this issue came up. So I don't think there is anything wrong with the pins in the connector...
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Ken, that you?
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Nope, Mikko's still runs.....
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Mikko,

if you need help, let me know.

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Thanks Ken!

I will probably try to check the O2 sensors tonight, but after that I'm pretty much out ideas...
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Thanks Ken!

I will probably try to check the O2 sensors tonight, but after that I'm pretty much out ideas...
I presume you checked injector resistance. Was this done when the car was cold? Hot? Both?
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Yes. Injectors measure all about 15.3 cold and about 16.3 when hot
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but starts stuttering when I step on it.
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