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xxxscimitarxxx · 11-02-2009

my 92 had a hissy fit the other day and popped a little backfire on start up from cold....

I turned off ignition, turned on, and re cranked it....

started up but then ran lumpy/cammy....(all warning lights off)

l let it run like this for about 20 secs but it didnt clear by it self so I blipped the throttle and it immediately ran smooth.....but

the SES light then came on and stayed on.

however the engine then seemed to run fine (i havent paperclipped it yet)

It now goes through this process on every start even when warmed up.....starts.....runs lumpy.....blip throttle to clear....SES light comes on....engine runs smooth

any ideas

(have l blown something off on the backfire?....I couldnt find any visible pipes blown off)

Hammer · 11-02-2009

Do you have a high idle once the motor clears up?

There's two hoses that can blow off on a backfire/hickup.
The MAP sensor hose at the back of the plenum.
Another hose that connected to the front left side of the plenum. This happened to mine. I was able to get it back on without pulling the plenum.

Hope this helps.

xxxscimitarxxx · 11-02-2009

idle was a couple of hundred higher l would guess

i checked at the back of the plenum and found a rubber connector that had two holes for a pair of metal end pipes pointing up vertically just behind the plenum and a little low (I havent got a manual to hand right now so will look into this later)....however this connector did not seem to be a tight fit on the two pipes...it wasnt blown off.....but when l pulled at it, it came off the two pipes easily...l pushed it back on but it didnt make a difference to what was happening

I will have my son recheck hoses that he can get too

Hammer · 11-02-2009

That's the PCV connection. You need a new one if you can find one. The MAP sensor hose is just to the right of that a bit. Small hose going from under the plenum to the fuel regulator area. If you do a search here you should be able to find information on that.

xxxscimitarxxx · 11-02-2009

Ah....OK....PCV

as for MAP sensor hose......seem to recall a small hose going to a small pressure regulator/diaphram looking object just above the PCV....that was connected ok at that point

-=Jeff=- · 11-02-2009

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Originally Posted by xxxscimitarxxx

Ah....OK....PCV

as for MAP sensor hose......seem to recall a small hose going to a small pressure regulator/diaphram looking object just above the PCV....that was connected ok at that point

no the MAP is on the bracket on the very end of the plenum, hose is under that.. you can reach from the top to fell it, but not sure if you can see it from either side

ZR1Vette · 11-02-2009

What you checked was the PCV connector (hilited with a red arrow) and what Jeff is referring to is the MAP sensor hose hilited with a yellow arrow (shows the nipple the hose attaches to)>>

Dynomite · 11-02-2009

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Originally Posted by ZR1Vette

What you checked was the PCV connector (hilited with a red arrow) and what Jeff is referring to is the MAP sensor hose hilited with a yellow arrow (shows the nipple the hose attaches to)>>

Great picture ZR1Vette.......even I can now understand what is going on

I just need some pictures like that highlighted in red and yellow identifying the vaccuum lines and parts under the plenum

ZR1Vette · 11-02-2009

Ask and you shall receive

Forward line under front of plenum (green arrow...red arrows are pointing to the IM forward plugs)

Vacuum line coming from forward vacuum pump...good spot to hook up a vacuum tester>>>

Overview>>

Dynomite · 11-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZR1Vette

Ask and you shall receive

Forward line under front of plenum

Vacuum line coming from forward vacuum pump...good spot to hook up a vacuum tester>>>

Overview>>

ZR1Vette.....you are DAMAN

Thank you

11-02-2009	#1
xxxscimitarxxx Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 219	SES light ? my 92 had a hissy fit the other day and popped a little backfire on start up from cold.... I turned off ignition, turned on, and re cranked it.... started up but then ran lumpy/cammy....(all warning lights off) l let it run like this for about 20 secs but it didnt clear by it self so I blipped the throttle and it immediately ran smooth.....but the SES light then came on and stayed on. however the engine then seemed to run fine (i havent paperclipped it yet) It now goes through this process on every start even when warmed up.....starts.....runs lumpy.....blip throttle to clear....SES light comes on....engine runs smooth any ideas (have l blown something off on the backfire?....I couldnt find any visible pipes blown off) Last edited by xxxscimitarxxx; 11-02-2009 at 08:09 AM.

11-02-2009	#2
Hammer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ideho Posts: 2,653	Re: SES light ? Do you have a high idle once the motor clears up? There's two hoses that can blow off on a backfire/hickup. The MAP sensor hose at the back of the plenum. Another hose that connected to the front left side of the plenum. This happened to mine. I was able to get it back on without pulling the plenum. Hope this helps. __________________ [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]John Boyd[/FONT][/I] [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1]Ideho[/SIZE][/FONT][/I] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][I]2015 ZL1 [/I][I]Camaro #1121 BLACK/BLACK 6 SPD (540 RWHP)[/I][/SIZE][/FONT] [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1]1991 ZR-1 #458 [COLOR=red]RED/[/COLOR][COLOR=black]BLACK 72[/COLOR]k miles ([B][COLOR=red]SOLD[/COLOR][/B]) 1991 ZR-1 #473 [COLOR=red]RED/[/COLOR][COLOR=black]BLACK [/COLOR]37k miles ([B][COLOR=red]SOLD[/COLOR][/B])[/SIZE][/FONT][/I]

11-02-2009	#3
xxxscimitarxxx Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 219	Re: SES light ? idle was a couple of hundred higher l would guess i checked at the back of the plenum and found a rubber connector that had two holes for a pair of metal end pipes pointing up vertically just behind the plenum and a little low (I havent got a manual to hand right now so will look into this later)....however this connector did not seem to be a tight fit on the two pipes...it wasnt blown off.....but when l pulled at it, it came off the two pipes easily...l pushed it back on but it didnt make a difference to what was happening I will have my son recheck hoses that he can get too

11-02-2009	#4
Hammer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ideho Posts: 2,653	Re: SES light ? That's the PCV connection. You need a new one if you can find one. The MAP sensor hose is just to the right of that a bit. Small hose going from under the plenum to the fuel regulator area. If you do a search here you should be able to find information on that. __________________ [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS]John Boyd[/FONT][/I] [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1]Ideho[/SIZE][/FONT][/I] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1][I]2015 ZL1 [/I][I]Camaro #1121 BLACK/BLACK 6 SPD (540 RWHP)[/I][/SIZE][/FONT] [I][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=1]1991 ZR-1 #458 [COLOR=red]RED/[/COLOR][COLOR=black]BLACK 72[/COLOR]k miles ([B][COLOR=red]SOLD[/COLOR][/B]) 1991 ZR-1 #473 [COLOR=red]RED/[/COLOR][COLOR=black]BLACK [/COLOR]37k miles ([B][COLOR=red]SOLD[/COLOR][/B])[/SIZE][/FONT][/I]

11-02-2009	#5
xxxscimitarxxx Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Posts: 219	Re: SES light ? Ah....OK....PCV as for MAP sensor hose......seem to recall a small hose going to a small pressure regulator/diaphram looking object just above the PCV....that was connected ok at that point

11-02-2009	#7
ZR1Vette Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Reston, Virginia Posts: 939	Re: SES light ? What you checked was the PCV connector (hilited with a red arrow) and what Jeff is referring to is the MAP sensor hose hilited with a yellow arrow (shows the nipple the hose attaches to)>> __________________ Michael :cheers: [I][SIZE="2"]1990 RED on RED #566[/SIZE][/I] [I][SIZE="2"]WAZOO MEMBER[/I][/SIZE]

11-02-2009	#9
ZR1Vette Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Reston, Virginia Posts: 939	Re: SES light ? Ask and you shall receive Forward line under front of plenum (green arrow...red arrows are pointing to the IM forward plugs) Vacuum line coming from forward vacuum pump...good spot to hook up a vacuum tester>>> Overview>> __________________ Michael :cheers: [I][SIZE="2"]1990 RED on RED #566[/SIZE][/I] [I][SIZE="2"]WAZOO MEMBER[/I][/SIZE] Last edited by ZR1Vette; 11-02-2009 at 12:32 PM.