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Old 09-23-2012   #41
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Sounds like there'll be some chips flyin' again this winter! Cripes...Just when I thought 500+ was good and I was out...y'all sucked me back IN!!!

These LT5s are adicting!!

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Ahhhhh, c'mon Paul.....it's only $$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!! Every ZR-1 should have a college fund.
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Old 09-23-2012   #42
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i've never had a good answer to why our cranks are so ******* expensive. I talked to a friend of mine who builds motors years ago and he couldn't believe what our cranks cost vs what he can get a race crank for
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Old 09-23-2012   #43
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She's lives.

Enjoy brotha

Hey Dennis, we agree on something

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Old 09-24-2012   #44
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i've never had a good answer to why our cranks are so ******* expensive. I talked to a friend of mine who builds motors years ago and he couldn't believe what our cranks cost vs what he can get a race crank for
The reason is all the extra machining and drilling the LT5 crank requires. Production time is probably at least double a regular SBC crank.
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Old 09-24-2012   #45
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i've never had a good answer to why our cranks are so ******* expensive. I talked to a friend of mine who builds motors years ago and he couldn't believe what our cranks cost vs what he can get a race crank for
Jag is right. There's a big difference between buying cranks for blocks that number in the 100s of thousands (or millions in the case of SBCs and BBCs) and a very limited production (read: near custom) motor - the LT5 Adding to that, it's a custom crank for a very limited production motor to begin with.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Bryant crank is a billet steel job. It starts out as a single piece of billet steel and the crank is then CNC sculpted from it. And, last I heard, the price tag is $5500 per copy. That makes offset grinding of a stock crank "attractive".



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Old 09-24-2012   #46
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Jag is right. There's a big difference between buying cranks for blocks that number in the 100s of thousands (or millions in the case of SBCs and BBCs) and a very limited production (read: near custom) motor - the LT5 Adding to that, it's a custom crank for a very limited production motor to begin with.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Bryant crank is a billet steel job. It starts out as a single piece of billet steel and the crank is then CNC sculpted from it. And, last I heard, the price tag is $5500 per copy. That makes offset grinding of a stock crank "attractive".



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Bryant Crank $5300.00 delivered to my door.The Crank cost is about $4200.00
the rest of the money comes from the balancing and shipping.To balance
My Bryant crank they used 16 pieces/slugs of mallory.

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WOW Thats a lot of mallory
The Bryant are pretty and lite weight.

I went with the Moldex ( on the 402 ) it was $23 or $2400 to the door. But it was not finished. I did not have my final bob weights, also it did not get the knife edge that I wanted. In the end with finish work $35-3700.

That's why the 380ci was built for GC. Want more for less $$ idea's.
If I do one for me or someone else in the future it will be with the ground stock crank again. To be able to take $35-$5500 off the bill of the motor makes it allot nicer.
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WOW Thats a lot of mallory
The Bryant are pretty and lite weight.

I went with the Moldex ( on the 402 ) it was $23 or $2400 to the door. But it was not finished. I did not have my final bob weights, also it did not get the knife edge that I wanted. In the end with finish work $35-3700.

That's why the 380ci was built for GC. Want more for less $$ idea's.
If I do one for me or someone else in the future it will be with the ground stock crank again. To be able to take $35-$5500 off the bill of the motor makes it allot nicer.

Well lets talk about the next build!!! Another 380!!!!!
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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She's lives.

Enjoy brotha

Hey Dennis, we agree on something

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I enjoyed 1500 miles of it over the last two days. Its running strong!!!! Thanks for those cams Pete. Up to doing another set of Intakes? GC
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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That is the plan for my car. Likely next winter



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You heard it this morning David!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat

90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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