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Old 12-08-2016   #31
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Bob,



Yes even though you "downgraded" to a lovely Long Beach Red C7 Z06,

you're still one of us.




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Old 12-09-2016   #32
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I think the added exposer would only help.


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Old 12-09-2016   #33
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Our gatherings have been dwindling for many years, which has required the addition of GS C4s (which I am all for) to maintain an economic critical mass for such events.
Well the numbers have been dwindling because the Gatherings are boring. Soon the real excitement will be from who has the fastest rascal scooter. Better have the oxygen tanks on hand for some of the guys. The only Gatherings that have been getting numbers are the anniversary years, 20th, 25th. People have provided feedback, and the comments have been ignored. How many times can we hear the same old story from the wayback over some suds in the parking lots?

To me the registry has a lot more issues it needs to address by looking in the mirror and seeing who they are here to serve, or more likely be a disservice to. The Registry is to promote the history of the LT5 ZR-1 and give us a place to hang our hat and foster some events. But lately, half of the country has been excluded. The west has been neglected while BG and Carlisle have life pumped into them. In the mean time, the left coast is put out to pasture and ignored.Ted Feder was given a monumental task as Event Coordinator, but he is one many on a regime of apathy.

Speaking of Apathy, whatever happened with David Johnson? There was a big uproar on his raspberry delight blog page and we never heard anything more. Lots of you folks were complaining about the way he was mistreated and were clamoring to right this wrong when the next election was held. Guess what, nothing happened and the same people were carried over. Paul, Jim, Brett, Dennis and David are all back. Let’s be honest though, that issue was not really all about a shirt like David Johnson claimed it was. But the Registry would rather sweep it under the rug instead and ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

Back to the question at hand of “broadening the registry universe”, you really have to ask yourself, what does the current registry have to offer the C3 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the next ZR1? In my opinion it doesn’t offer anything for the C4 ZR-1, other than the forum there is no value add. I can show up to BG and waste a weekend without being a registry member. I can show up to Carlisle without being a registry member. I guess maybe the greatest thing about the registry is I have sent 30 bucks a year for the past 10+ years and all I’ve gotten was a t-shirt where the design seems to get worse every year.


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Old 12-09-2016   #34
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Well the numbers have been dwindling because the Gatherings are boring. Soon the real excitement will be from who has the fastest rascal scooter. Better have the oxygen tanks on hand for some of the guys. The only Gatherings that have been getting numbers are the anniversary years, 20th, 25th. People have provided feedback, and the comments have been ignored. How many times can we hear the same old story from the wayback over some suds in the parking lots?

To me the registry has a lot more issues it needs to address by looking in the mirror and seeing who they are here to serve, or more likely be a disservice to. The Registry is to promote the history of the LT5 ZR-1 and give us a place to hang our hat and foster some events. But lately, half of the country has been excluded. The west has been neglected while BG and Carlisle have life pumped into them. In the mean time, the left coast is put out to pasture and ignored.Ted Feder was given a monumental task as Event Coordinator, but he is one many on a regime of apathy.

Speaking of Apathy, whatever happened with David Johnson? There was a big uproar on his raspberry delight blog page and we never heard anything more. Lots of you folks were complaining about the way he was mistreated and were clamoring to right this wrong when the next election was held. Guess what, nothing happened and the same people were carried over. Paul, Jim, Brett, Dennis and David are all back. Let’s be honest though, that issue was not really all about a shirt like David Johnson claimed it was. But the Registry would rather sweep it under the rug instead and ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

Back to the question at hand of “broadening the registry universe”, you really have to ask yourself, what does the current registry have to offer the C3 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the next ZR1? In my opinion it doesn’t offer anything for the C4 ZR-1, other than the forum there is no value add. I can show up to BG and waste a weekend without being a registry member. I can show up to Carlisle without being a registry member. I guess maybe the greatest thing about the registry is I have sent 30 bucks a year for the past 10+ years and all I’ve gotten was a t-shirt where the design seems to get worse every year.


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That pretty much sums it up. Why welcome new blood,both C4 and the new breed when it's the same ol $hit? I was a member years ago and the same political BS from years ago is still alive and well today. When there is a drastic change MAYBE I'll rejoin. The way it is now most,like myself join the first time only to be frustrated by politics,left the membership and vowed never to rejoin. Clean house from the top down I say. I can imagine it's a thankless job but those that hold the seat,you did volunteer for the job correct?
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Old 12-09-2016   #35
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Well the numbers have been dwindling because the Gatherings are boring. Soon the real excitement will be from who has the fastest rascal scooter. Better have the oxygen tanks on hand for some of the guys. The only Gatherings that have been getting numbers are the anniversary years, 20th, 25th. People have provided feedback, and the comments have been ignored. How many times can we hear the same old story from the wayback over some suds in the parking lots?

To me the registry has a lot more issues it needs to address by looking in the mirror and seeing who they are here to serve, or more likely be a disservice to. The Registry is to promote the history of the LT5 ZR-1 and give us a place to hang our hat and foster some events. But lately, half of the country has been excluded. The west has been neglected while BG and Carlisle have life pumped into them. In the mean time, the left coast is put out to pasture and ignored.Ted Feder was given a monumental task as Event Coordinator, but he is one many on a regime of apathy.

Speaking of Apathy, whatever happened with David Johnson? There was a big uproar on his raspberry delight blog page and we never heard anything more. Lots of you folks were complaining about the way he was mistreated and were clamoring to right this wrong when the next election was held. Guess what, nothing happened and the same people were carried over. Paul, Jim, Brett, Dennis and David are all back. Let’s be honest though, that issue was not really all about a shirt like David Johnson claimed it was. But the Registry would rather sweep it under the rug instead and ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

Back to the question at hand of “broadening the registry universe”, you really have to ask yourself, what does the current registry have to offer the C3 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the next ZR1? In my opinion it doesn’t offer anything for the C4 ZR-1, other than the forum there is no value add. I can show up to BG and waste a weekend without being a registry member. I can show up to Carlisle without being a registry member. I guess maybe the greatest thing about the registry is I have sent 30 bucks a year for the past 10+ years and all I’ve gotten was a t-shirt where the design seems to get worse every year.


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While today, I need neither a scooter or oxygen, someday maybe I, or even you may need one or both.

So what is your point?

You don't like a club with old people?

Well, suck it up buttercup, and get over it.

You don't like the same old stories, but you say the purpose of the club is to "preserve the history"
Well, which is it?

You don't like the way the club is run, and you whine about the officers and what they do.

Did you run for office?
If not, why?
Are you still a member?
You seem to have all of the answers to fix things, so why not run?

What have you done to try and fix what you find wrong with West Coast Events?

Why not volunteer to lead one?

You state the Registry has no value to you.

Then why are you here wasting your time?

Is whining that much fun?

Roll up your sleeves and work to fix it.
Or at least stop whining.
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Old 12-09-2016   #36
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All,

We are going to have differences of opnion which is what this thread is soliciting
but we would ask to keep it collegial. I am gratified that an avowed "lurker"
like 95Z09Z actually responded to our topic at hand. I might not agree w his views but glad he finally felt compelled to voice them.
Bringing a higher level of participation is one of the reasons the Board felt it was important to consider the issue at hand.
So thanks for the input so far but let's keep the focus on what YOUR opinion is rather than someone else's.
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Bringing a higher level of participation is one of the reasons the Board felt it was important to consider the issue at hand.

I don't think adding the other generations will correct this. It will be high participation due to another gen car and that owner base.

Many companies and volunteer organizations have surveys. Has the BoD considered that for the point above.

If you want a higher level of participation you have to find out what members are looking for or missing. Sponsored regional or local events, that more can attend which could lead to them going to the Gathering.

I think fixing the participation of our Gen first, THEN consider the adding

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Well 95Z09Z you obviously weren't at the 2016 gathering as it was anything but boring. I, unlike you was there and can attest to it. I also disagree that suggestions are ignored.

So, Paul, Brett, etc., keep getting elected. Did you ever think it was because THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB!!!!!
If you want to change things start participating and making positive suggestions instead of negative remarks.
Please keep in mind that the ZR-1Net Registry isn't like other car clubs. It is a world wide club. Even in that when regional events occur our members local to that event go and post to the forum.
Nobody forces any of us to attend any car events. BG and Carlisle have their itineraries posted in advance, so if you don't think it will interest you don't go. It is that simple.
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Old 12-09-2016   #39
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Thank you all for your comments.

The overall concept of this thread, taken from the opening post, was if the "addition of ZR Corvette generations lends a new perspective from which the C4 ZR-1 will be viewed", thus contributing to our mission of "Keeping the Legend Alive."

As Dominic stated, the Board is looking for the sense of members on this issue. There would be much work to do if we received overwhelming support of our membership to actively expand the Registry. Our main focus remains "Keeping the Legend Alive," and this was brought up as a way to do so by becoming involved in the hype around the next gen ZR.

While our anniversary year events are always very well attended, our off-year events have increased in numbers each year since 2013 - both for Carlisle and the Gathering. We work to make these events as best we can, and welcome your constructive recommendations. We've received overly positive comments about both events this year from attendees, but there's always something that we can do better. I welcome your constructive feedback to me at president@zr1netregistry.com. I believe our goals are similar - working together to make this the best organization it can be.

Know that your Board of Directors contributes a lot of time to this organization, all while balancing daytime careers and family time. We are a non-profit organization and have no full-time employees. The Registry has operated since inception by having each Director carrying a significant portion of the operational workload, as well as through members who volunteer to organize events for the benefit of the community. In doing so, no Director takes a dime from the Registry for any of their work, travel, or use of vacation time to orchestrate and attend these events, yet it is a very rewarding job. If you want to contribute to the Registry to make it better, we'd love to have your help – actively running events, contributing ideas, writing articles for our quarterly publication, identify items for group buys, etc. The Board will consider all recommendations.

That said, I ask that this thread remain on topic, asking for your opinion regarding the expansion of the Registry. The Board is interested in your opinion. If you have any comments, concerns, etc. that you would like to address, please email me - president@zr1netregistry.com - I want to know what's on your mind and happy to discuss your concerns. I believe all of our interests are the same - "Keeping the Legend Alive."

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Old 12-10-2016   #40
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Bob,

Yes even though you "downgraded" to a lovely Long Beach Red C7 Z06,
you're still one of us.

Oh thanks Dom. I was worried there for a minute to you too ...Bob
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