ZR Registry- Broadening the Registry Universe

[WARP TEN]

While I am not currently a ZR-1 or ZR1 owner I still think it is a good idea provided, as Jerry notes, that the forums have clear sub forums to focus on each generation's issues and the main website is similarly divided to provide info for all generations. Something like the way the Corvette Forum handles all different Corvette models. A big benefit would be to the annual gathering which would be provided with a substantial economic boost. Our gatherings have been dwindling for many years, which has required the addition of GS C4s (which I am all for) to maintain an economic critical mass for such events. I think having new members would add a lot for everyone. Other generation ZR owners are just as passionate about their special Corvettes as we are and are probably good guys to boot. We might even end up recruiting some over to the C4 ZR-1 side. My only major concern is, will I still be allowed to hang around with my lowly mass-produced Z06??? --Bob

[Fully Vetted]

Originally Posted by WARP TEN

Our gatherings have been dwindling for many years, which has required the addition of GS C4s (which I am all for) to maintain an economic critical mass for such events.

I still think that's due to lack of promotion. I'm sorry but posting an event schedule 30 days prior to an event is not a promotion. A great example is what we are doing here in Texas. Four years ago when I bought my car there were exactly 0 events going on in Texas in terms of C4 ZR-1 events. There was Vette's on the Lex (no longer running) and then the big Texas Corvette Association event which is still a big event but again nothing ZR-1 specific. We now meet at minimum 3 times a year. And it's grown from 3 cars the first year to this weekend we could have as many as 12-15 cars. And 4-5 of those are new members. Just 2 months ago we met for a BBQ and we had over 20 cars. From 0 events to multiple events hosting 20+ cars in 3 years. All due to promoting the event. If it can be done on a state level it can be done on a national level.

[95Z09Z]

Originally Posted by WARP TEN

Our gatherings have been dwindling for many years, which has required the addition of GS C4s (which I am all for) to maintain an economic critical mass for such events.

Well the numbers have been dwindling because the Gatherings are boring. Soon the real excitement will be from who has the fastest rascal scooter. Better have the oxygen tanks on hand for some of the guys. The only Gatherings that have been getting numbers are the anniversary years, 20th, 25th. People have provided feedback, and the comments have been ignored. How many times can we hear the same old story from the wayback over some suds in the parking lots?

To me the registry has a lot more issues it needs to address by looking in the mirror and seeing who they are here to serve, or more likely be a disservice to. The Registry is to promote the history of the LT5 ZR-1 and give us a place to hang our hat and foster some events. But lately, half of the country has been excluded. The west has been neglected while BG and Carlisle have life pumped into them. In the mean time, the left coast is put out to pasture and ignored.Ted Feder was given a monumental task as Event Coordinator, but he is one many on a regime of apathy.

Speaking of Apathy, whatever happened with David Johnson? There was a big uproar on his raspberry delight blog page and we never heard anything more. Lots of you folks were complaining about the way he was mistreated and were clamoring to right this wrong when the next election was held. Guess what, nothing happened and the same people were carried over. Paul, Jim, Brett, Dennis and David are all back. Let’s be honest though, that issue was not really all about a shirt like David Johnson claimed it was. But the Registry would rather sweep it under the rug instead and ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

Back to the question at hand of “broadening the registry universe”, you really have to ask yourself, what does the current registry have to offer the C3 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the next ZR1? In my opinion it doesn’t offer anything for the C4 ZR-1, other than the forum there is no value add. I can show up to BG and waste a weekend without being a registry member. I can show up to Carlisle without being a registry member. I guess maybe the greatest thing about the registry is I have sent 30 bucks a year for the past 10+ years and all I’ve gotten was a t-shirt where the design seems to get worse every year.


Long time BG, Carlisle participant and lurker. First time poster.

[Z51JEFF]

Originally Posted by 95Z09Z

Well the numbers have been dwindling because the Gatherings are boring. Soon the real excitement will be from who has the fastest rascal scooter. Better have the oxygen tanks on hand for some of the guys. The only Gatherings that have been getting numbers are the anniversary years, 20th, 25th. People have provided feedback, and the comments have been ignored. How many times can we hear the same old story from the wayback over some suds in the parking lots?

To me the registry has a lot more issues it needs to address by looking in the mirror and seeing who they are here to serve, or more likely be a disservice to. The Registry is to promote the history of the LT5 ZR-1 and give us a place to hang our hat and foster some events. But lately, half of the country has been excluded. The west has been neglected while BG and Carlisle have life pumped into them. In the mean time, the left coast is put out to pasture and ignored.Ted Feder was given a monumental task as Event Coordinator, but he is one many on a regime of apathy.

Speaking of Apathy, whatever happened with David Johnson? There was a big uproar on his raspberry delight blog page and we never heard anything more. Lots of you folks were complaining about the way he was mistreated and were clamoring to right this wrong when the next election was held. Guess what, nothing happened and the same people were carried over. Paul, Jim, Brett, Dennis and David are all back. Let’s be honest though, that issue was not really all about a shirt like David Johnson claimed it was. But the Registry would rather sweep it under the rug instead and ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

Back to the question at hand of “broadening the registry universe”, you really have to ask yourself, what does the current registry have to offer the C3 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the next ZR1? In my opinion it doesn’t offer anything for the C4 ZR-1, other than the forum there is no value add. I can show up to BG and waste a weekend without being a registry member. I can show up to Carlisle without being a registry member. I guess maybe the greatest thing about the registry is I have sent 30 bucks a year for the past 10+ years and all I’ve gotten was a t-shirt where the design seems to get worse every year.


Long time BG, Carlisle participant and lurker. First time poster.

That pretty much sums it up. Why welcome new blood,both C4 and the new breed when it's the same ol $hit? I was a member years ago and the same political BS from years ago is still alive and well today. When there is a drastic change MAYBE I'll rejoin. The way it is now most,like myself join the first time only to be frustrated by politics,left the membership and vowed never to rejoin. Clean house from the top down I say. I can imagine it's a thankless job but those that hold the seat,you did volunteer for the job correct?

[DRM500RUBYZR-1]

Originally Posted by 95Z09Z

Well the numbers have been dwindling because the Gatherings are boring. Soon the real excitement will be from who has the fastest rascal scooter. Better have the oxygen tanks on hand for some of the guys. The only Gatherings that have been getting numbers are the anniversary years, 20th, 25th. People have provided feedback, and the comments have been ignored. How many times can we hear the same old story from the wayback over some suds in the parking lots?

To me the registry has a lot more issues it needs to address by looking in the mirror and seeing who they are here to serve, or more likely be a disservice to. The Registry is to promote the history of the LT5 ZR-1 and give us a place to hang our hat and foster some events. But lately, half of the country has been excluded. The west has been neglected while BG and Carlisle have life pumped into them. In the mean time, the left coast is put out to pasture and ignored.Ted Feder was given a monumental task as Event Coordinator, but he is one many on a regime of apathy.

Speaking of Apathy, whatever happened with David Johnson? There was a big uproar on his raspberry delight blog page and we never heard anything more. Lots of you folks were complaining about the way he was mistreated and were clamoring to right this wrong when the next election was held. Guess what, nothing happened and the same people were carried over. Paul, Jim, Brett, Dennis and David are all back. Let’s be honest though, that issue was not really all about a shirt like David Johnson claimed it was. But the Registry would rather sweep it under the rug instead and ignore the problem and hope it goes away.

Back to the question at hand of “broadening the registry universe”, you really have to ask yourself, what does the current registry have to offer the C3 ZR1, the C6 ZR1 and the next ZR1? In my opinion it doesn’t offer anything for the C4 ZR-1, other than the forum there is no value add. I can show up to BG and waste a weekend without being a registry member. I can show up to Carlisle without being a registry member. I guess maybe the greatest thing about the registry is I have sent 30 bucks a year for the past 10+ years and all I’ve gotten was a t-shirt where the design seems to get worse every year.


Long time BG, Carlisle participant and lurker. First time poster.

While today, I need neither a scooter or oxygen, someday maybe I, or even you may need one or both.

So what is your point?

You don't like a club with old people?

Well, suck it up buttercup, and get over it.

You don't like the same old stories, but you say the purpose of the club is to "preserve the history"
Well, which is it?

You don't like the way the club is run, and you whine about the officers and what they do.

Did you run for office?
If not, why?
Are you still a member?
You seem to have all of the answers to fix things, so why not run?

What have you done to try and fix what you find wrong with West Coast Events?

Why not volunteer to lead one?

You state the Registry has no value to you.

Then why are you here wasting your time?

Is whining that much fun?

Roll up your sleeves and work to fix it.
Or at least stop whining.
Marty

[XfireZ51]

All,

We are going to have differences of opnion which is what this thread is soliciting
but we would ask to keep it collegial. I am gratified that an avowed "lurker"
like 95Z09Z actually responded to our topic at hand. I might not agree w his views but glad he finally felt compelled to voice them.
Bringing a higher level of participation is one of the reasons the Board felt it was important to consider the issue at hand.
So thanks for the input so far but let's keep the focus on what YOUR opinion is rather than someone else's.

[-=Jeff=-]

Originally Posted by XfireZ51

All,
Bringing a higher level of participation is one of the reasons the Board felt it was important to consider the issue at hand.

I don't think adding the other generations will correct this. It will be high participation due to another gen car and that owner base.

Many companies and volunteer organizations have surveys. Has the BoD considered that for the point above.

If you want a higher level of participation you have to find out what members are looking for or missing. Sponsored regional or local events, that more can attend which could lead to them going to the Gathering.

I think fixing the participation of our Gen first, THEN consider the adding

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