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[samgallagher]

When it comes to condition in buying a car I use Hagerty's Condition Codes. Hagerty uses 4 condition codes: 1, 2, 3, 4. 1 is concours and 4 is fair.
http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

Example:
Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best car, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the car has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 cars is "concours."

Condition#2 cars could win a local or regional show. They can be former #1 cars that have been driven or have aged. Seasoned observers will have to look closely for flaws, but will be able to find some not seen by the general public. The paint, chrome, glass and interior will all appear as excellent. No excessive smoke will be seen on startup, no unusual noises will emanate from the engine compartment. The vehicle will drive as a new car of its era would. The one word description for #2 cars is "excellent."

[KILLSHOTS]

Originally Posted by samgallagher

When it comes to condition in buying a car I use Hagerty's Condition Codes. Hagerty uses 4 condition codes: 1, 2, 3, 4. 1 is concours and 4 is fair.
http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/HVT/VehicleSearch

Example:
Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best car, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the car has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 cars is "concours."

Condition#2 cars could win a local or regional show. They can be former #1 cars that have been driven or have aged. Seasoned observers will have to look closely for flaws, but will be able to find some not seen by the general public. The paint, chrome, glass and interior will all appear as excellent. No excessive smoke will be seen on startup, no unusual noises will emanate from the engine compartment. The vehicle will drive as a new car of its era would. The one word description for #2 cars is "excellent."

Yep, and even among #1 cars, "perfect" is nearly non-existent.

[samgallagher]

You are correct Chris. Very few cars meet CC 1. If you ever listen to the show "What's My Car Worth" by Keith Martin, he rarely gives a car a CC 1.

[USAFPILOT]

i think a car could be perfect for me, and still have a flaw.

[Bob Eyres]

Originally Posted by USAFPILOT

i think a car could be perfect for me, and still have a flaw.

Nope, Webster's definition of the word perfect is "without flaws".
To call something perfect when you acknowledge that it does have a flaw, or flaws, is to devalue the word and deny the meaning.

[efnfast]

Originally Posted by Bob Eyres

Nope, Webster's definition of the word perfect is "without flaws".
To call something perfect when you acknowledge that it does have a flaw, or flaws, is to devalue the word and deny the meaning.

Agreed.

[Hog]

Originally Posted by Bob Eyres

Nope, Webster's definition of the word perfect is "without flaws".
To call something perfect when you acknowledge that it does have a flaw, or flaws, is to devalue the word and deny the meaning.

verb

1. make (something) completely free from faults or defects, or as close to such a condition as possible:
   "he's busy perfecting his bowling technique"

adjective

1. having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be:
   "she strove to be the perfect wife"

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I think that all of the responses in this thread could conceivably be correct. It's a matter of perspective as "perfection" can be viewed both quantitatively and qualitatively
Perhaps perfection is in the "Eye of the Beholder"? I'm not saying I'm correct, just expanding on some themes in this thread.

I find linguistics, semantics and pragmatics interesting.

[WB9MCW]

I WONDER IF MEN AND WOMEN HAVE A DIFFERENT
VIEW OF THE PERFECT VETTE?

[KILLSHOTS]

Originally Posted by WB9MCW

I WONDER IF MEN AND WOMEN HAVE A DIFFERENT
VIEW OF THE PERFECT VETTE?

Hmmm, I notice it doesn't mention anything about the "...according to men" version having no vocal cords.

[KILLSHOTS]

Originally Posted by Bob Eyres

Nope, Webster's definition of the word perfect is "without flaws".
To call something perfect when you acknowledge that it does have a flaw, or flaws, is to devalue the word and deny the meaning.

BINGO!