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Old 09-07-2010   #31
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Wow! I assume most of you have met the people you are talking about? If not, maybe that's the problem. None of the guys I've met have ever struck me as anything other than car guys who enjoy ZR-1's. I've never noticed any arrogance or egotism. And I read Jerry's response. Nothing in that strikes me as anything more than an honest (and appreciated) explanation of his point of view.

The registry has something like 600 members at about $50 per (not counting any merchandising sales, etc). That's ~$30k a year. I for one am glad there is some basic process in place for disbursing that amount of money.

And I can see what Jerry was saying about tarnishing the club's reputation. Now I'm reading how it's some petty payback for Jeff (oddly you all seem more outraged by the club following their rules than you were by financial misappropriation). And how the club laws are some secret that are engraved on a gold ring, only visible with fire (here's a clue, they are right on the registry website: http://www.zr1netregistry.com/member/memberbylaws.htm). There's more drama than daytime TV!

How many people went to this event? It was $875/how many people? The Registry has made their decision to play by the rules they set out. If it's going to cause such bad blood for the NW folks, I'd be willing to chip in a few bucks to help out, I'm sure others would be as well.



How much do you need??? I'm willing to chip in also.............Anything to get this resolved.
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Old 09-08-2010   #32
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Am I missing something? Wouldn't the event be listed under the PNW regional area of this forum? If a PNW Z Brother is out of $ I am also willing to send some $ to help offset his expenses.
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Old 09-08-2010   #33
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... And I read Jerry's response. Nothing in that strikes me as anything more than an honest (and appreciated) explanation of his point of view.
... (oddly you all seem more outraged by the club following their rules than you were by financial misappropriation). And how the club laws are some secret that are engraved on a gold ring, only visible with fire (here's a clue, they are right on the registry website: http://www.zr1netregistry.com/member/memberbylaws.htm).
Thanks for the link; I DID READ THE BYLAWS...finally
How and why we are to where we are today is water over the dam.
It all boils down to this:
1, We in the NW had a gathering that for whatever reasons did not follow the bylaws. As a result one of our brothers is out of pocket > $800 that he incurred thinking the Registry would reimburse him.

2. Our executives performed their fiduciary duties followed the bylaws and refused the payment request.
Their position does not allow consideration of anything but facts. Compassion is not an option to them.

BUT, we as ZR-1 owners and registery members can and will help our brother recover his loss.
Nick post your mailing address. We want to send you our support contrinution.
If you get more than your loss save it for another NW event but the next time make sure you have it all documented and there are no loopholes.
Regardless, we can still have a "private" gathering anytime we want even if it's not approved the the head masters.
Now if our commanding officers don't like or approve this, than Section 4 of the bylaws states that a majority of the Executive Board can cancel membeships for the likes of Jeff Flint, aka bad guy, and all of the others including me who have voiced negative opinions and challenged executive authority.
Stripped of our Registry membership we will still have pride of ZR-1 ownership and of being part of the brotherhood that helps their members.
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Old 09-09-2010   #34
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All,
How goes the Battle? I really don't know what the issues are but it is about getting together of ZR1 owners, networking & having fun. I don't have no issues with anyone or any ZR1. If you are not on the distro list go to http://pnwzr1.net request to be added to the e-mail list. Lets move on & let NorthWest region be the best & the most active of folks in the ZR1 community.

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Old 09-12-2010   #35
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All,
How goes the Battle? I really don't know what the issues are but it is about getting together of ZR1 owners, networking & having fun. I don't have no issues with anyone or any ZR1. If you are not on the distro list go to http://pnwzr1.net request to be added to the e-mail list. Lets move on & let NorthWest region be the best & the most active of folks in the ZR1 community.

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It was, as usual, good to see you at the Northwest event, Manfred!
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Old 09-15-2010   #36
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Nick, have you officially been approved by those in control as our Rergional rep? If not what neeed be done to get this finalized?
As I posted earlier,
How and why we are to where we are today is water over the dam.
It all boils down to this:
1, We in the NW had a gathering that for whatever reasons did not follow the bylaws. As a result one of our brothers is out of pocket > $800 that he incurred thinking the Registry would reimburse him.

2. Our executives performed their fiduciary duties and followed the bylaws; refused the payment request.
Their position does not allow consideration of anything but facts. Compassion is not an option to them.

I want to draw closure on all this crap abnd make the NW region stronger than ever it has been. I now have 2 younger new ZR-1 owners now living within a few miles of us and would like them to become Registry members and be involved in NW region's events void of any future political BS. They both have become members of our local Corvette Club,

MGCC, http://www.majesticglass.org/

Need me to help you in some way to make this reality???
Bill

PS: This fall is very busy for us but come spring, I'll work on a Whidbey Island cruise for us.
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Old 09-15-2010   #37
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Bill:

Effective as of Spring of 2009, I had resigned as the Northwest Regional Director. I "took it back" unofficially this year to make sure that the Northwest event would happen. As we all know, it happened, whether officially "sanctioned" or not.

I appreciate your support, but I must respectfully decline officially taking the position again. Without Registry financial support, and given the political climate posed by the current Board (and, any successor Board, as far as I can see by the nominations), I cannot, in good conscience, accept. Even the promise of Registry financial support going forward, if we dot all the "i's" and cross all the "t's," does not provide sufficient comfort for me that our event(s) will be supported. I don't trust 'em.

In addition, as I have stated privately to Ron Kreigh, I will not be renewing my membership for 2011. Obviously, money speaks volumes, and I'm hanging onto my money going forward.

Thus goes founding member #32.

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Old 09-15-2010   #38
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Bill:

Effective as of Spring of 2009, I had resigned as the Northwest Regional Director. I "took it back" unofficially this year to make sure that the Northwest event would happen. As we all know, it happened, whether officially "sanctioned" or not.

I appreciate your support, but I must respectfully decline officially taking the position again. Without Registry financial support, and given the political climate posed by the current Board (and, any successor Board, as far as I can see by the nominations), I cannot, in good conscience, accept. Even the promise of Registry financial support going forward, if we dot all the "i's" and cross all the "t's," does not provide sufficient comfort for me that our event(s) will be supported. I don't trust 'em.

In addition, as I have stated privately to Ron Kreigh, I will not be renewing my membership for 2011. Obviously, money speaks volumes, and I'm hanging onto my money going forward.

Thus goes founding member #32.

Thanks.
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