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Old 01-20-2025   #1
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Default Anyone Skilled or Able to 3D Scan to CAD or the Like?

As pertaining to obsolete parts such as the LT5 thermostat housing, a few of us have discussed the idea of 3D scanning components to at least have digital renderings which could be stored in the Registry server. Possibly in the future the Registry could even work to manufacture some of these items.

Does anyone have the knowhow, ability, or equipment to 3D scan to CAD or the like?

Also, what obsolete/rare parts do you feel we need to help keep these cars on the road into the future? I would like to make a running list.
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Old 01-20-2025   #2
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Bear in mind that 3D scans or any reverse engineering effort will lack original design details such as material properties, performance requirements, build tolerance, etc.
Some of this risk can be mitigated if several known good samples are used to scrutinize during the reverse engineering process. One should scrutinize the part and anything it interfaces with.

C2 and C3 spare and repair parts are a disaster already given that NOS parts are scarce and old tooling is worn out. I have to buy minimum three of anything to get one that mostly fits or works.
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This is a good idea, however, the Registry tried this with Windshields, which were supposed to be out in the wild now, yet here we are over a year later and nothing, how about some updates and finish out that other project before getting involved in more that may or may not see the light of day
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This is a good idea, however, the Registry tried this with Windshields, which were supposed to be out in the wild now, yet here we are over a year later and nothing, how about some updates and finish out that other project before getting involved in more that may or may not see the light of day
Hi Jeff, I empathize with your frustration. Please know that I am new to the Registry (10 months), brand new as a Board member, and not aware of past projects. This is yet another reason why I am soliciting the help of all of you!

Frankly though, a lot of people are venting but few are stepping up to help. Ex., more than 100 people have viewed my new/updated stickies yet I haven't received a single response with updates from the community. I cannot do this alone, I have to have help from the community.

Who was involved in the windshield project? I will try and speak with them and see where we are at. With as many members as we have though, we should be able to work on simultaneous projects at once.
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Bear in mind that 3D scans or any reverse engineering effort will lack original design details such as material properties, performance requirements, build tolerance, etc.
Some of this risk can be mitigated if several known good samples are used to scrutinize during the reverse engineering process. One should scrutinize the part and anything it interfaces with.

C2 and C3 spare and repair parts are a disaster already given that NOS parts are scarce and old tooling is worn out. I have to buy minimum three of anything to get one that mostly fits or works.
I appreciate those tips Mike. That is exactly why I posted this for all to see. I need help working these issues/ideas.
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Who was involved in the windshield project? I will try and speak with them and see where we are at. With as many members as we have though, we should be able to work on simultaneous projects at once.

The previous board to my knowledge..



As for volunteering, I get it, I was a Boy Scout leader from the time my son was a Bear in Cub Scouts until 4 AFTER he earned his Eagle and aged out.. I recently stepped down from helping there and now I am on the Board for the Local club, why? because no one steppe did and I did it 20 years ago.


Yes I saw your posts and such, but I have not had enough time to respond to many of them. Give me time and I will go through them..
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A former member Dave Johnson procured some new windshields a few years ago but I don't know if he has more or exactly how successful his efforts were. Dave still has a large collection of ZR-1s although he is no longer affiliated with the Registry due to some past feuds with some here. Marc might have info on that, as he stays in touch with Dave. Marc also might be a help on vetting parts and repair suppliers you have listed as he has used many over the years, although he might want to keep some close to his vest for business reasons. --Bob
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Old 01-22-2025   #8
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I have the "ability" to 3D scan parts. I own a Miraco from the company Revopoint.

https://www.revopoint3d.com/pages/st...scanner-miraco.

This is "just" a 1300 USD scanner and it certainly doesn't compete with the professionnal ones in term of scan quality (from 10k$ up to 100k$ and more).

I have attempted to scan and reverse-engineer the CHMSL from the ZR-1 (high mounted stop lamp) as a starter for a little project,

The scanning process is tedious and requires a lot of experience and attempts to get a decent result. It's a learning journey.

If you want to reverse-engineer the part afterward, it's even more difficult.

You basically need to recreate the part by modelling shapes around the scanned data. If the part is symetrical and has very few features, it's quite OK.

I'm pretty good with Solidworks, and god, I had the worst time of my life doing this.

This was my first reverse engineering attempt. I should have tried with a much easier part, like the LT5 oil pump seat which is also on my scanning project list. I'll get better by practising for sure!

I have seen that some companies specialized in scanning and reverse-engineering parts, here's an exemple : https://3dscanningservices.net/profe...e-engineering/

It could be interesting to get a quote.
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Old 01-22-2025   #9
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Default Re: Anyone Skilled or Able to 3D Scan to CAD or the Like?

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Hi Jeff, I empathize with your frustration. Please know that I am new to the Registry (10 months), brand new as a Board member, and not aware of past projects. This is yet another reason why I am soliciting the help of all of you!

Frankly though, a lot of people are venting but few are stepping up to help. Ex., more than 100 people have viewed my new/updated stickies yet I haven't received a single response with updates from the community. I cannot do this alone, I have to have help from the community.

Who was involved in the windshield project? I will try and speak with them and see where we are at. With as many members as we have though, we should be able to work on simultaneous projects at once.
You are the main player in regards to this site and you have no knowledge of these windshields? This is in no way any criticism towards you but it seems the people running this site should have divulged this in the very beginning. As far as somebody making new content thermostat housings there are several cast parts and several pipes,all aluminum and welded together. My suggestion is have one 3D printed,disassemble this and find a foundry to make the cast part,source the aluminum pipe and find a machine shop to do any machine work and weld everything together. My Brother is a tool and die maker by profession with a full service shop. Hes getting ready to retire,just out of curiosity I'm going to ask him about this.
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I just bought a thermostat housing,when I get it I'll see exactly what's required to make these. I do know that have some of the parts cast is the biggest challenge and then machined.
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