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Old 05-24-2021   #1
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Default Oil Temperature Control Valve Thermostatic Element Failure

Went out for a drive recently and after about 30 minutes took the opportunity to scroll through the digital readouts for coolant, oil, and voltage. Coolant temp and voltage were normal however, much to my surprise found the oil temp at 240 degrees F. Normally it runs within a few degrees of the coolant temperature under street driving conditions with usual summer time ambients.
Following is an account of the steps I took for investigating and correcting the high oil temperature problem:

I replaced the oil cooler with a NOS cooler when I installed the 427 engine which had been working fine so I suspected there was something not quite right with the oil temperature regulator valve assembly.
To pull the regulator valve assembly apart from the filter housing I used a good pair of right angle internal snap ring pliers. Following photos were taking using my spare engine which was easier to photograph.
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The plug released after a few taps from a soft blow hammer and wooden dowel.
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Before starting the investigation I left engine set for a few days to allow the oil to drain back to the sump. Had very little oil to deal with when the the retainer cap popped free.
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The thermostat element that provides the force for controlling the temperature regulating valve sits right behind the access plug.
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The thermostat element, regulating slide valve, and return spring are easily removed.
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To be continued
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Old 05-24-2021   #2
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Default Re: Oil Temperature Control Valve Thermostatic Element Failure

Bench tested thermostat element on the stove with a NOS spare element and IR temperature thermometer. Here is where the problem was uncovered.
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The NOS spare element is on the right and the failed removed element on the left.
During the reinstall make sure the return spring is properly seated on the locating boss at the rear on the control valve bore.
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Slide valve installed with vent hole at twelve and six o'clock.
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Make sure control valve slides freely with no binding or rough spots.
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Here is the control valve at full travel.
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Lubricate the O-ring and reinstall the cover plug with a shoft blow hammer and wood dowel.
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Reinstall snap ring and rotate gap to the bottom to prevent water from collecting and creating corrosion.
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A good pair of snap ring pliers makes the job easier.
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Default Re: Oil Temperature Control Valve Thermostatic Element Failure

Nice catch Mr. Wasinger and a most excellent procedural article, beautifully documented with superb illustrations. I love a good LT5 Technical Paper!
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Thank you Professor Phil! Greatly appreciate your time to document and share. 🤙🏼


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Old 05-25-2021   #6
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Default Re: Oil Temperature Control Valve Thermostatic Element Failure

Thanks guys.
The thing to keep in mind thermostatic element failure can be readily detected if you happen to select oil temperature on the digital gauge read out and notice the higher temperature. If the temperature increase is high enough you could probably see it on analog gauge as well. According to my 94 Owners manual the middle mark indicates 220 degrees F and the third mark 250 degrees oil temperature.
As our cars are getting older, with many pushing 30 years now, would be a good idea to check how your oil temperature is doing next time you have your ZR-1 out for an extended drive.
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Default Re: Oil Temperature Control Valve Thermostatic Element Failure

Great write-up!
Thanks!

So did this lower the oil temp (readout)?
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So did this lower the oil temp (readout)?
Sure did. Back to running within a few degrees above the coolant temperature which ranges 195 to 205 degrees F driving around town and 190-195 on the open highway. A little higher during hot summer months.
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Old 05-25-2021   #9
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Great write up Phil! Thank you! I'll check my '91 to see how it's doing and add this to my check list for client cars..

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Thanks for enlightening me on the subject. Actually found the part and ordered on just in case.
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