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Old 10-15-2020   #1
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In your expert opinion, pristine examples are worth $30K at most.

Does that mean your offer of $23K still stands? If so, I'm guessing you wouldn't consider this car a pristine example?

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Not interested in the A molds. With the year and mileage, I am interested at about $23k."

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No idea why people get so upset when you try to help them. If you want to get offended, that is your perogative. I can go get several 90' and 91' ZR-1s with under 20k miles, in some cases under 15k miles, for about $17k to $20k. No, I don't think I'm interested in this car, I'm looking for aqua blue, turquoise, yellow, black, or polo green and preference in that order, but best of luck with sale.

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Old 10-15-2020   #2
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Default Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles

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No idea why people get so upset when you try to help them. If you want to get offended, that is your perogative. I can go get several 90' and 91' ZR-1s with under 20k miles, in some cases under 15k miles, for about $17k to $20k. No, I don't think I'm interested in this car, I'm looking for aqua blue, turquoise, yellow, black, or polo green and preference in that order, but best of luck with sale.
I'm not offended, just irritated. I guess I really don't see how giving your unsolicited opinion on a for sale thread that you didn't start helps me out really?!?! I expect Internet appraisals on Facebook, just seams below grade for this group.

Like you point out, they made nearly 7,000 ZR-1's and there are several at your indicated price point, but are they sorted? I mean EVERYTHING gone through... turn key, NCRS Top Flight certified ( not delivery certified ), unmolested cars? not at $17-20K.

APPLES to Oranges really.

In my best Star Wars Jedi voice " This isn't the car you are looking for ".
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Old 10-15-2020   #3
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I'm not offended, just irritated. I guess I really don't see how giving your unsolicited opinion on a for sale thread that you didn't start helps me out really?!?! I expect Internet appraisals on Facebook, just seams below grade for this group.

Like you point out, they made nearly 7,000 ZR-1's and there are several at your indicated price point, but are they sorted? I mean EVERYTHING gone through... turn key, NCRS Top Flight certified ( not delivery certified ), unmolested cars? not at $17-20K.

APPLES to Oranges really.

In my best Star Wars Jedi voice " This isn't the car you are looking for ".

The opinion was offered b/c the car had been for sale for a while. After taking a look at it, the why seemed pretty obvious. It's all a question of whether the sale is the goal or whether getting the right price is the goal. I've got a Viper that I probably wouldn't sell for "market" whatever that may be, largely because I love the car and have no interest in selling. But if the right offer came along, sure I would sell it.


With regard to 'sorted' v. not. I don't really expect any car I buy to be sorted. Most will likely need new tires if the intent is to drive the car. Most are going to have some quirky part that the prior owner installed and will need to be removed, maybe a new clutch, or windshield (if you can find one). I expect to have to spend $2-4k sorting at minimum no matter how pristine it looks. But I take that into account when pricing the car. If the car is $20k, I fully expect to spend at least $3k sorting it, maybe $5k making it pristine. If the car is $25k, I wouldn't expect it to need more than tires and maybe a slightly touch up in paint, maybe some minor wear that will need attention in the future. If the car is $30k, it should be perfect, but every perfect car I've seen still needs something.
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Old 12-20-2020   #4
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Default Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles

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In my best Star Wars Jedi voice " This isn't the car you are looking for ".
I hate to be that guy, but...apparently, after nearly 11 months, it's not the car anyone is looking for.

It's incredibly clean, but these just aren't bringing that kind of money. Especially not a 1991.

Good luck though, hopefully the right buyer comes along wanting a rare color.
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Old 12-21-2020   #5
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Default Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles

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I hate to be that guy, but...apparently, after nearly 11 months, it's not the car anyone is looking for.

It's incredibly clean, but these just aren't bringing that kind of money. Especially not a 1991.

Good luck though, hopefully the right buyer comes along wanting a rare color.
A more accurate quote would be it is not the car that anyone currently on this site, who mostly already own one or more ZR-'s, is looking to buy.
Most buyers of the NCRS / Bloomington Level ZR-1 Corvettes are found through other website ads.
Although our 700 or so members mostly love the car and are quite knowledgeable about them, they are not the only buying pool out there.
To find a buyer for a near perfect higher priced car, one must get it in front of as many eyes as possible until the one person who wants THAT car sees it.
While our membership certainly buys and sells ZR-1's, we are only a small subset of buyers. Ads in NCRS Driveline, Hemmings, and a dozen or more other similar sites attract those who may not know of the Registry, but are looking for a high quality car nonetheless.
Our members "know" the cars very well. Others without such knowledge rely more on Top Flight or Bloomington pedigree achievements to assure them they are buying the real deal.
Same car priced at 20k would sell in a day, 30k maybe a month.
It is worth the asking price to one who demands exactly that kind of car in that condition, and is willing to pay a premium to get what they want.
It takes time and exposure to find them.
Continued luck with the sale!

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Old 10-15-2020   #6
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Default Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles

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No idea why people get so upset when you try to help them. If you want to get offended, that is your perogative. I can go get several 90' and 91' ZR-1s with under 20k miles, in some cases under 15k miles, for about $17k to $20k. No, I don't think I'm interested in this car, I'm looking for aqua blue, turquoise, yellow, black, or polo green and preference in that order, but best of luck with sale.
Wow, again you seem to find the best deals around!

Go get em!

Let us know how many you get.


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Old 10-15-2020   #7
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Wow, again you seem to find the best deals around!

Go get em!

Let us know how many you get.


Marty

Finding deals isn't hard, it's just research. Kinda like shopping at Corvette Mike. You are going to pay more if you go to Mike, a lot more, but you also get the convenience of a one stop shop. But if you look around for the diamond in the rough on some place like on Craigslist, and wade through the BS and scams, you may just find a great car and pay 50% less than the Corvette Mikes of the world will charge for the same car.
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Default Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles

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Wow, again you seem to find the best deals around!

Go get em!

Let us know how many you get.


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Funny.
I shopped for months, and the ?cheap? ones would have ended up Being very expensive. Good cars cost good money. Cars like the one in question in this thread are amongst the finest ZR1s available. I still think it is very fairly priced for what it is.
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Old 10-15-2020   #9
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Wow, again you seem to find the best deals around!

Go get em!

Let us know how many you get.


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To be clear, I was being facetious.

Those "deals" are likely crap cars.

You don't get $40k+ cars in the teens unless someone is an ignoramus.

SHOW ME THE DEAL.

Admittedly there ARE ignoramuses out there, but my searching rarely if ever, uncovers a gem for peanuts.

When someone gets a 5,000 mile perfect car for $15,000.00 I will be the first to congratulate you.

Show me when it is in the driveway and running.

As always, Good Luck!

Might help if one stops smokin that funny stuff..................

5k mile ZR-1s in 2020 for 15K............

How did that guy used to say it......

"yeah........... that the ticket, sure that's right.....................


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Old 12-20-2020   #10
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Default Re: FS: 1991 Chevrolet ZR-1 NCRS Top Flight (99.5%) survivor. 9894 miles

John Luvitz quote, Love it Marty!

I've updated pictures with the factory wheels/tires on the car. I have a ton more on request. Heres a few interior shots. I can say with confidence this interior is a 10 out of 10.

Full disclosure, It now has 9901 miles so I'm sure its worth abut $5k less. Guess we'll see!
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