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Old 08-25-2015   #141
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Default Re: Point/Counterpoint: DOHC v OHV

If you are a younger car enthusiast, the C4 ZR-1 represents an absolute steal in terms of performance and exclusivity. Particularly if you do your own wrenching. Some of the same reasons I'd love to have a Ford GT or a Pantera.
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Old 08-25-2015   #142
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I'm 32 and have a zr1, an extra LT5 and about 7k worth of spare parts, so I'm one of those people.

I think this is due in part to the fact that many of the original buyers weren't car guys per se, they were buying them for investments. When that investment didn't pan out, they sold them to the second owners who were car guys.
I tend to agree with ya on that. People buying now want the car, not the $$.
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I'm 32 and have a zr1, an extra LT5 and about 7k worth of spare parts, so I'm one of those people.

I think this is due in part to the fact that many of the original buyers weren't car guys per se, they were buying them for investments. When that investment didn't pan out, they sold them to the second owners who were car guys.
Very true!!!
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Old 08-25-2015   #144
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If you are a younger car enthusiast, the C4 ZR-1 represents an absolute steal in terms of performance and exclusivity. Particularly if you do your own wrenching. Some of the same reasons I'd love to have a Ford GT or a Pantera.
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I tend to agree with ya on that. People buying now want the car, not the $$.
Unfortunately, actual market conditions do not support either statement. Used C4 ZR-1s are not selling well...with the exception of pristine, very low mileage 92-95s
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Old 08-25-2015   #145
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Unfortunately, actual market conditions do not support either statement. Used C4 ZR-1s are not selling well...with the exception of pristine, very low mileage 92-95s
Or purpley 95s?
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Old 08-25-2015   #146
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If you are a younger car enthusiast, the C4 ZR-1 represents an absolute steal in terms of performance and exclusivity. Particularly if you do your own wrenching. Some of the same reasons I'd love to have a Ford GT or a Pantera.
The Pantera is the next car on my bucket list. When I decided to get another car I was torn between the Pantera and the ZR-1. I'm glad I went with ZR-1 but it only temporarily eased my desire for a Pantera. My Dad had a yellow '74 when I was growing up. It was one nasty car. Now that all of the electrical and overheating fixes are out they can be very dependable. And I can't remember the last time I saw one on the road.
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Old 08-25-2015   #147
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Unfortunately, actual market conditions do not support either statement. Used C4 ZR-1s are not selling well...with the exception of pristine, very low mileage 92-95s
They aren't selling, most ZR-1 and non ZR-1 C4s are priced entirely too high. It's a buyers market, but you have to keep an eye out for a truly good deal. There are a decent amount of the same C4s sitting around here on lots year after year.

They are cost effective to own in stock form, but aren't cost effective to modify at all. They aren't cost effective to repair or rebuild either.

If you want cost effective you buy a high mileage or blown C5, pull the engine and drop in a low mileage salvage engine.

The money I'll have into rebuilding the LT5 I'm working on, to stock form, would buy me a mid mileage LS3.
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The Pantera is the next car on my bucket list. When I decided to get another car I was torn between the Pantera and the ZR-1. I'm glad I went with ZR-1 but it only temporarily eased my desire for a Pantera. My Dad had a yellow '74 when I was growing up. It was one nasty car. Now that all of the electrical and overheating fixes are out they can be very dependable. And I can't remember the last time I saw one on the road.
I once owned a 71 Pantera (#1683)...hence my username. It was great car and I modded that car to no end. I even replaced the 351 Cleveland with a 5.4L DOHC motor. I am quite certain I was the first to ever do it. It was such a fun car to own, modify, and drive. As expected, the prices have gone up considerably since I owned mine. I may even have pictures somewhere...
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Very nice. Probably the only car I would have to consider as a trade for my Z.

Is that Hilborn injection I see?
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Old 08-25-2015   #150
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Very nice. Probably the only car I would have to consider as a trade for my Z.

Is that Hilborn injection I see?
Kinsler Injection.
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