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View Poll Results: "ZR-1 Net" keep as listserver or new Forum?
Listservice? 28 43.75%
Forum? 24 37.50%
Keep both? 12 18.75%
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Old 07-30-2005   #11
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In the end, I will use either one. But, my preference is the listserv.
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Old 07-30-2005   #12
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I like the new forum.
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Old 07-30-2005   #13
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My vote is to keep the list. E-mail works just fine for me.
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Old 07-30-2005   #14
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I pick the forum. Photos and diagrams ect. More modern utility vs. a list! Why endure a long detailed description when a photo is worth a thousand words. Besides one more star and I win an LT5......
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Old 07-31-2005   #15
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Keep the ZR1 net as is. Jack Robinson
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Old 07-31-2005   #16
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I also like the forum. As I am new to ZR-1 ownership I don't read all the emails I get from the listserve because most of them don't apply to me yet, such as maintenance issues, gatherings, etc. If we are still able to search the listserve archives for topics that have already been sent out that would be great. I think that the forum will allow for more interaction and quicker interaction between members who are online at the same time. There is an infinite amount of knowledge of the ZR-1 and all that it entails here at this website. I only hope that someday I will make some valuable contributions.

Just my .02.

Thanks for being here!

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Old 07-31-2005   #17
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I like the list because I learn about things that may happen, not just what is a current issue. The other advantage of the list and the emails is that if my Internet access is down, I still have the email on my computer for ready access.

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Old 07-31-2005   #18
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Originally Posted by zr1mom
If the listserver was to go away the archive of past emails will still be there and available as it is today.

I know for some of you this will be painful but when listening to all the past complaints with the listservice:

- Can't have attachments which mean no pictures, or charts, etc
- Email volume
- Access
- Email changes
- Can't get email at work
- Accidently sending emails to the whole list

and so on....

I just believe the forum would be more fun.

Also as far as having both, it justs seems to delute everyone. Remember when we had more then one ZR-1 Club. People are forced to either join both or pick one.

I have listservice members who don't like getting emails and then I have people on this forum who complain there is not enough activity to make it worth hanging out here.

To me the forum offers advantages like if someone asks for help the responder could actually posts pictures or diagrams.
Well, if you only want to have one, I would vote for the forum. I too prefer the ability to only read threads of interest, post pictures, etc.

However, it's possible that some listserv education might help with some of those problems. I have my subscription set up as a digest, so I only get two emails per day. In addition, one can peruse the emails online if web access is easier than email access (or use a free webmail address as your listserv address like aim.com or whatever).
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Old 07-31-2005   #19
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Ok, I've decided for now to postpone the shutting down of the ZR-1 Net listservice and to continue to keep both the listservice and forum.

Hopefully in time members will see the benefits of having a forum over a listserver. However I've remove any links on the ZR-1 Net Registry web site to joining the ZR-1 Net listservice.

I to the masses.

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Old 07-31-2005   #20
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Mom, I'd like to strongly second what John Pesar said on the Registery news list:

On 7/31/05, John Pesar wrote:
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> That said Dave, it's clear that you've invested your own money and
> more time than anyone else to keep the ZR1 Net going, and everyone has
> benefited from your efforts. If you are like everyone else, I'm sure there have been
> times down through the years when you had more pressing personal non ZR1 Net
> related issues that were put off in order to manage this net. In those
> circumstances the rest of us can just turn off the computer and take care of other
> things. Yesterday you democratized what is really not a democracy by allowing
> us to vote on how things should go in the future. That kind of graciousness
> again demonstrates to me that I wish I knew you as a personal friend. I'm not
> aware of the level of effort it would take on your part to switch to a forum
> versus the current listserv environment, but if it's less time intensive on your
> part than the way it is now, and that's what you really need, then you should
> switch to a forum. I'm sure I can learn to live with the new way. The one
> thing that's clear to me personally is that I don't want to lose access to the
> benefit of the experiences and insight of ZR1 owners far more knowledgeable
> than I am by having this go away.

You are more than a class act... you are the cream of the crop, and we're incrediably lucky to have you run this thing. And I'm not saying this because you're keeping the listserv for now - I'm saying it because it is true regardless of the individual decisions (like this one) that are made.

A lucky son,

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