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GOLDCYLON · 10-21-2011

Anybody else with a budget alternative ?

Pete · 10-21-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

Anybody else with a budget alternative ?

Do you need new head bolts?
Since you asked here are my thoughts.

Use the OE bolts.
I have reused mine if i had to guess at least 20 times,no issues.

ARP's for $75 each stud
or
Stockers Free

Pete

GOLDCYLON · 10-21-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete

Do you need new head bolts?
Since you asked here are my thoughts.

Use the OE bolts.
I have reused mine if i had to guess at least 20 times,no issues.

ARP's for $75 each stud
or
Stockers Free

Pete

I here ya Pete. Was just trying to make it easier for BillB

WB9MCW · 10-21-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomtom72

I had no idea you could use that stuff as a diet-to-loose-weight idea? Chit, I think I'll go to the grocery store tonight and start now this way maybe by the spring I will have a quicker car!

You two are making me

Polo-1 · 10-21-2011

GC use the head bolts, as the block was tq plate honed with bolts not studs.

Ron's Studs use every thread in the block. the bolts are on the short side, not sure how much the change would be for liner pull.

GOLDCYLON · 10-22-2011

Got it thanks Kevin. Bolts it is!!!

Topfuel · 10-23-2011

Head studs are better than bolts.Head studs pull more evenly and clamp straighter since it doesn't cause a twisting force on the block, and in normal engines it doesn't twist the top of the cyclinder. I replaced the liners with steel ones from LA sleeve companies sleeves using a 4 inch bore and 4" small block chevy forged turbo pistions. I dont trust bolts when you boost engines. I used a torque plate with the head studs when I honed the engine so it is round and straight. I also used ARP Main studs and had to peice together those studs from studs arp had in stock. I will tune it for 1000Hp corrected at the tires that should be good for diving around and having power when needed. I was told that these blocks are good for only about 1000hp . At my altitude that will be about 800 hp actual at the tires and 875-925 at the crank that is about all these engines can stand.
And YES $1350 for head bolts gave me sticker shock money that I will never get back. But it is just one small cost compaired to the money this project has cost. Computer systems for engine transmission and ignition was $10000.00. paddle 6 speed AUTOMATIC paddle transmission was $10000.00 also not to mention the endless money in this Engine . All well I want some thing so unike any other car out there and this engine does it. Long live lt5

WB9MCW · 10-23-2011

WB9MCW · 10-23-2011

ANOTHER CAMARO THAT HAS A TT LT-5
ONLY PHOTO I HAVE OF IT
WISH I HAD A FULL CAR VIEW AS WELL

Pete · 10-23-2011

No doubt studs are better.
Most N/A stock/mild builds reusing stock bolts is fine.

Pete

10-21-2011	#41
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10-21-2011	#45
Polo-1 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 952	Re: 1969 Twin Turbo Camaro with LT5 GC use the head bolts, as the block was tq plate honed with bolts not studs. Ron's Studs use every thread in the block. the bolts are on the short side, not sure how much the change would be for liner pull.

10-22-2011	#46
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,117	Re: 1969 Twin Turbo Camaro with LT5 Got it thanks Kevin. Bolts it is!!! __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

10-23-2011	#47
Topfuel Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 43	Re: 1969 Twin Turbo Camaro with LT5 Head studs are better than bolts.Head studs pull more evenly and clamp straighter since it doesn't cause a twisting force on the block, and in normal engines it doesn't twist the top of the cyclinder. I replaced the liners with steel ones from LA sleeve companies sleeves using a 4 inch bore and 4" small block chevy forged turbo pistions. I dont trust bolts when you boost engines. I used a torque plate with the head studs when I honed the engine so it is round and straight. I also used ARP Main studs and had to peice together those studs from studs arp had in stock. I will tune it for 1000Hp corrected at the tires that should be good for diving around and having power when needed. I was told that these blocks are good for only about 1000hp . At my altitude that will be about 800 hp actual at the tires and 875-925 at the crank that is about all these engines can stand. And YES $1350 for head bolts gave me sticker shock money that I will never get back. But it is just one small cost compaired to the money this project has cost. Computer systems for engine transmission and ignition was $10000.00. paddle 6 speed AUTOMATIC paddle transmission was $10000.00 also not to mention the endless money in this Engine . All well I want some thing so unike any other car out there and this engine does it. Long live lt5

10-23-2011	#48
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,584	Re: 1969 Twin Turbo Camaro with LT5 Last edited by WB9MCW; 10-23-2011 at 10:05 AM.

10-23-2011	#50
Pete Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicagoland,IL Posts: 2,667	Re: 1969 Twin Turbo Camaro with LT5 No doubt studs are better. Most N/A stock/mild builds reusing stock bolts is fine. Pete __________________ '91 #1635 PoloGreen 350 LT5 11.09 @ 129.27 11.04 @ 128.86 474RWHP 400RWTQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNFOhGGlR4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRIOMwaDYY https://sites.google.com/site/peteszr1garage