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Old 12-23-2010   #1
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Default Re: Help, only dynoing 300RWHP

Yeah, I'm thinking about just removing the secondaries completely. Corey has already offered to update my top end porting for free, so I think I'm just going to have him pull the secondary system completely and burn a new chip while he's doing that. He thinks I'm probably down about 80HP from where it should be, which would be great. Now I just have to figure out when I can get the car down to him for a couple of weeks.
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Old 12-23-2010   #2
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Yeah, I'm thinking about just removing the secondaries completely. Corey has already offered to update my top end porting for free, so I think I'm just going to have him pull the secondary system completely and burn a new chip while he's doing that. He thinks I'm probably down about 80HP from where it should be, which would be great. Now I just have to figure out when I can get the car down to him for a couple of weeks.

"Do It" "Do It"

Better find the time and way to get it to Coreys as fast as you can,heck walk back home if you have to

Corey is probably spot on about the HP loss.
If you think the car feels fast now wait till after he's done with it.

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Old 12-23-2010   #3
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Here is a dyno of a 91 before and after porting, no headers. If you compare this to your dyno you will note that yours is down on power over the whole rpm range - not just at the top. So whatever issue you are having is effecting the whole curve, probably not a collapsing air duct as that usually just shows up at the higher rpms.

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Old 12-23-2010   #4
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Here is a dyno of a 91 before and after porting, no headers. If you compare this to your dyno you will note that yours is down on power over the whole rpm range - not just at the top. So whatever issue you are having is effecting the whole curve, probably not a collapsing air duct as that usually just shows up at the higher rpms.


Peaks at 5600
Some details please.

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Old 12-23-2010   #5
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Peaks at 5600
Some details please.

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My first porting job so the runners were a bit more conservative than what I do now but it's mainly the lack of headers causing the early hp peak. Might also be breaking up a bit at the top cause of lack of tuning - you can see some "seismic" activity starting at around 5600rpm. Car was a pretty stock 350cid with Power Effects exhaust.

Back to the comparison: You can see on my graph the car is making 200hp around 3300rpm vs your 165ish - that says a lot about the nature of your issue - look at Nacho's dyno and you'll see the same trend = Your problem is across the board. Secondary issue.... good possibility.
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Old 12-26-2010   #6
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Here is a dyno of a 91 before and after porting, no headers. If you compare this to your dyno you will note that yours is down on power over the whole rpm range - not just at the top. So whatever issue you are having is effecting the whole curve, probably not a collapsing air duct as that usually just shows up at the higher rpms.

Hum! interesting to see the difference between Locobobs dyno results and my dyno results with top end porting an my totally stock exhaust. Bobs increase shows up at about 4200rpm,s. And the increase in my dyno shows up right from the beginning all the way up. Interesting to see how different they are. I'm not sure which results are more typical. I guess it all comes down to porting technique.
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Old 12-27-2010   #7
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Hum! interesting to see the difference between Locobobs dyno results and my dyno results with top end porting an my totally stock exhaust. Bobs increase shows up at about 4200rpm,s. And the increase in my dyno shows up right from the beginning all the way up. Interesting to see how different they are. I'm not sure which results are more typical. I guess it all comes down to porting technique.
was there any ECM tuning done to your combo at all, or is it simply the porting alone that is accounting for the difference?
I see that your PE mode A/F ratio is quite different between youir pulls, it would be interesting to see Locobobs A/F ratios as well.

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