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Anyone have the B&B exhaust with the Non Resonated X pipe instead of the resonator? There is no price difference. Seems like allot of weight savings going with the X pipe... I remember on the 92 I had the resonator seemed pretty heavy..

Will the drone be unbearable? Ill also have bullet cats installed...

Also looking at the SW system, but I like the polished look of the B&B better and it less expensive....

Any thoughts or experiences?

https://www.lmperformance.com/cart.a...part_id=185864

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You may have seen this before, but here is a link to a B&B system posted here for sale in January. May or may not be what you are looking for and I don't know if it still for sale. --Bob


http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30164

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I have full B&B with x pipe. Sound is incredible. Deep and throaty. Yes it drones. ......I love it

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Had the 3" system with xpipe. Could not use cell phone on highway. Had the stock system reinstalled. Looked and sounded great, other than the drone issue. Drone was most prevalent in 6th gear. Tolerable in 5th at 75mph.

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The excessive resonance is rpm and load related, not speed. The resonance spikes occur at two points, roughly 1800 and 3400 rpms, and is most intense under light load. It is mitigated with Helmholtz Resonators, which the stock and Corsa systems have but not the Borla. Also if you are switching to Borla, note they have fairly restrictive mufflers (or at least used to) and also use a restrictor ahead of the resonator as noted in these Technical Information notes by Marc Haibeck on his website. http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...20vs%20b&b.htm and http://www.zr1specialist.com/HAT%20W...restrictor.htm --Bob

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I have the B&B with 3" X pipe and 4.09 gears.

Highway driving is pretty good but it is still a B&B system.

It is not super loud to me but people hear me coming!

If I want quite I will drive my Prius.

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I would too, but a squirrel totalled my Prius (chewed wiring harness)

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If I’m not mistaken, the B&B Fusion system was designed to eliminate drone and have the ability to switch from loud to not so loud.
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Only thing I never really liked about the Corsa was how low the mufflers hang... Just looks odd to me.

So Marcs write up is 11 years old, I wonder if they changed the design since....

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The Fusion was introduced after Marc’s article. It has a vacuum operated valve like the current C7 systems. Never heard one myself but reports have been positive.
H
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Reminder all ZR-1 Net Registry members receive 25% discount on all Stainless Works products


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Thanks Dennis... thats definitely a consideration. How do I redeem that if I did get a SW system?

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Once you have an idea what you want reach out to Hans (Ccmano) and he can take care of getting a quote and placing order for you


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Thanks again Dennis!

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I have the B&B Fusion and love it!! Nice and quiet when in the neighborhood, but with the push of a button it opens up and gets everybody’s attention. Marc installed it when he did my 510 package. He actually dynoed it at 526. I’m sure the exhaust helped it get there.


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I have gone thru at least 10 different variations of B&B, Stainless Works and other systems over the years in search of the "perfect" set up. Currently have the latest gen B&B Fusion but without the dual mode valves. Ahead of those I have Stainless Works headers, B&B X-pipe, and B&B 3" pipes back to the mufflers. Best system to date and hopefully my last. Love the sound from idle to WOT and no drone at any speed. Very loud when you punch it (which I wanted!) and pleasant rumble at cruise. Quiet enough at cruise for easy conversation and listening to the radio.

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Does anyone actually run the SW 3" exhaust with the X Pipe and Turbo-S mufflers? Id love to hear a clip. I searched a long time already and no one actually has that system....

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I would be interested in this also.
Was thinking to go with the Corsa. In fact a member here has a used Corsa set up but we haven't figured out how to economically ship it. If this doesn't work out the SW looks hard to beat, especially with our discount.:cheers:

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I've got video/sound clips of the Turbo S system I'll post later.

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Awesome, thanks!

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Here are two videos - 1) side by side idle comparison of Turbo S mufflers on a stock cam car (mine) vs B&B Fusion (valves open) on a cammed car and 2) my car, still with Turbo S's, but after cams installation. I now have Fusions on my car.

https://youtu.be/VKRp1E__K_I
https://youtu.be/HWrA-f0Bbiw

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Thank you. The cammed cars sounded sweet... maybe some day...:p

I pulled the trigger on the SW system...

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32valvZ,
Did you take advantage of the discount for ZR-1.net members?
If so, how did it work out cost wise? ie: Did you still get the free freight, etc?
Would appreciate some feedback as this is the system I plan to get if the Corsa setup does not work out from a fellow member.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, I did use the special pricing through the site. Cost was 25% off which was a savings of about $340. Price was $1004. Shipping was $75. I opted for the round quad tips which was $150. after discount... My total shipped price is $1230.

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Really appreciate the info. Will see which direction I go.
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