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Blue Flame Restorations 01-08-2015 02:43 PM

Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/exc...st-photos-news

I would think that the car pictured is just a "mule" and the real thing will look completely different.

WB9MCW 01-08-2015 02:57 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Well lookie there hope for the next ZR1 a real ball buster at that as well.

Paul Workman 01-08-2015 04:26 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Oh... We can only hope!!! (Still my beating heart!)

FU 01-08-2015 04:56 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
We all knew that a mid engine Corvette was just a matter of time.

Z06scentair 01-08-2015 05:04 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Yes,

Now that GM knows they can sell 120k cars, which was proven with the 09-13 ZR1 and now the new Z06.

A market following that can pay 120k for those cars will most certainly have the ability to shell out 200k for the American Super Car!

It's long overdue for America to take the reins of of the Super Car world!

LGAFF 01-08-2015 05:20 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Unless I am mistaken, that is a Holden UTE; which is a what the GTO platform was based on...so its just a body from an existing GM Product not the ZR-1

XfireZ51 01-08-2015 07:36 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FU (Post 218240)
We all knew that a mid engine Corvette was just a matter of time.

Yeah, like 60 years Frank. This time it looks like they may actually do it.
The Holden UTE helps w 4WD, plus the bed provides a spot for the motor mounted midship.

Fully Vetted 01-08-2015 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Z06scentair (Post 218243)
Yes,

Now that GM knows they can sell 120k cars, which was proven with the 09-13 ZR1 and now the new Z06.

A market following that can pay 120k for those cars will most certainly have the ability to shell out 200k for the American Super Car!

It's long overdue for America to take the reins of of the Super Car world!

They've known that since Ford sold the $160k GT. Although, the GT was not a version of another car. If it's true what the word is about another GT in 2016 wouldn't it be great if these 2 beasts hit the market at the same time?

BigJohn 01-09-2015 06:33 AM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
I like the looks of the mule!!!!!

USAFPILOT 01-10-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
That clearly has a C7 Corvette Dash, Roof, and A pillar design. The front number is of the G8 Holden Variety, as is the rear from the UTE. I think the Holden body panels are covering the mastery underneath.

XfireZ51 01-10-2015 05:30 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Totally agree! Besides a UTE would also suggest AWD.

Kevin 01-10-2015 05:32 PM

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we all know gm well enough to know they won't build two different frames for a corvette

XfireZ51 01-10-2015 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 218304)
we all know gm well enough to know they won't build two different frames for a corvette

So the C7 is the last front engine Vette then. If McLaren and Ferrari can build cars profitably at low numbers, GM can use its economic
muscle to do the same. Guys, I think GM sees what Porsche has done w the expansion of its line, and the Corvette brand has a similar potential. That's where this is headed.

cvette98pacecar 01-14-2015 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 218305)
So the C7 is the last front engine Vette then. If McLaren and Ferrari can build cars profitably at low numbers, GM can use its economic
muscle to do the same. Guys, I think GM sees what Porsche has done w the expansion of its line, and the Corvette brand has a similar potential. That's where this is headed.

As for the Nose clip it is from a Commodore.

Dom, They would lose a huge Market share if they went to just 150K+ supercars. How many people would go over to Dodge and Ford that could only afford a 75K dollar car.

JThomas 01-14-2015 02:23 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
GM better get to work, because the Ford GT is pretty awesome looking! =D>
IMHO

Kevin 01-14-2015 02:32 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JThomas (Post 218439)
GM better get to work, because the Ford GT is pretty awesome looking! =D>
IMHO

they didn't really do much after the last gt was released, or the first one

cvette98pacecar 01-14-2015 02:34 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JThomas (Post 218439)
GM better get to work, because the Ford GT is pretty awesome looking! =D>
IMHO

Joe, Isn't the new GT called the Phoenix?

Paul Workman 01-14-2015 02:42 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvette98pacecar (Post 218441)
Joe, Isn't the new GT called the Phoenix?

Hey! That name is taken! :o

mike100 01-14-2015 02:56 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
They could probably sell more of those Holden El Camino's than $200k Corvettes. Ford and GM both shuttering their assembly lines in Australia this year or next...I wonder if the Commodore/ute/police Caprice/SS line will move somewhere else or if it is an end of a product line?

Corvette has economy of scale and a dedicated assembly plant- I wonder how many Ford GT's they can crank out? I would think any super vette would be cheaper than a GT at least.

XfireZ51 01-14-2015 03:38 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvette98pacecar (Post 218435)
As for the Nose clip it is from a Commodore.

Dom, They would lose a huge Market share if they went to just 150K+ supercars. How many people would go over to Dodge and Ford that could only afford a 75K dollar car.

Robert,

Ferrari is a brand, McLaren and Porsche are brands. What does GM have? If Porsche can expand from the 911 to 4-5 vehicles including SUV, why couldn't Corvette be a brand? And if you are going to play w the big guys, you need to show you are on the technological edge. At the end of the day, that says mid-engine. But that doesn't preclude GM from having a front engine car as Ferrari does with the FF, or the California. The Daytona of the 70's is very much sought after.
Do you ever see Chevrolet anywhere on the car? Nope.

Mystic ZR-1 01-14-2015 04:21 PM

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A few years back, well before the 2008 mess, GM was alledgedly thinking about making Corvette a seperate brand. Obviously, nothing came of it. The near future may be the time?

XfireZ51 01-14-2015 04:31 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
VW has Porsche, Lambo, Ducati
FCA has Ferrari
Ford has now entered the exotic arena w the GT
Toyota w the LF-A

Why do you think GM has been racing mid-engine "Corvette" prototypes for the last several years?

JThomas 01-16-2015 02:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cvette98pacecar (Post 218441)
Joe, Isn't the new GT called the Phoenix?

Not sure if it is the Phoenix. I plan to go to the show over the weekend or maybe on Monday. I want to see that car in person.

rkreigh 01-16-2015 02:55 PM

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the new gt looks impressive but I'm disappointed they didn't throw in a TT coyote flat crank engine

the 600 hp will no doubt move the beast but it's not even to the level of the old GT

I'll take my ZR-1 with a 5.0 TT dohc v8 please

make the bottom end hold 1k from the factory and put out 750 or more in a 3k lb mid engine car

I'm really excited to see some radical concepts even being talked about

GM has managed to keep the vette alive, ,now build something that can take on the world with no excuses for less than 200k

XfireZ51 01-16-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Should the ZORA look like what C&D posted, I think GM will need to go back to the drawing board after seeing the GT .

RICKYRJ1 01-16-2015 05:40 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 218529)
Should the ZORA look like what C&D posted, I think GM will need to go back to the drawing board after seeing the GT .

i agree they need to step up on the design front. the GT looks killer the C&D design looks primitive IMHO

RICKYRJ1 01-16-2015 05:43 PM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XfireZ51 (Post 218529)
Should the ZORA look like what C&D posted, I think GM will need to go back to the drawing board after seeing the GT .

i agree they need to step up on the design front. the GT looks killer the C&D design looks primative IMHO

Paul Workman 01-17-2015 05:54 AM

Re: Mid Engine Corvette Supercar Pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rkreigh (Post 218526)
the new gt looks impressive but I'm disappointed they didn't throw in a TT coyote flat crank engine

the 600 hp will no doubt move the beast but it's not even to the level of the old GT

I'll take my ZR-1 with a 5.0 TT dohc v8 please

make the bottom end hold 1k from the factory and put out 750 or more in a 3k lb mid engine car

I'm really excited to see some radical concepts even being talked about

GM has managed to keep the vette alive, ,now build something that can take on the world with no excuses for less than 200k

I think I'm with y'all on this - in fact I know I am! But, I harden back to one of the reasons for why our ZR-1s didn't get the attention from GM that it deserves: (From the pages of "The Heart of the Beast") GM didn't want to alienate it's primary Corvette base customers sitting on the sidelines with some "supercar" that is out of their (financial) league! (What is the old saying? "It's hard to be an eagle when you're flying with pigeons?") I can almost hear the same old BS we've heard from the rabble being pointed at the ZR-1, can't you?

The ZR-1, tho hated by many at GM and its base model customers (to this day in some circles), it set the stage for better things to follow. I say it is about time to come out of the cocoon of the past (front-engine, pickup truck compliant motor) and come out with a mid engine, high revving, boosted DOHC mill with all the state of the art goodies like independent VVT, direct injection, etc, etc. and be a pace-setter once again...or get left in the dust!!! JMO.

WB9MCW 01-17-2015 11:10 AM

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be a pace-setter once again...or get left in the dust!!!


indeed that is the true point - progress or suck dust :proud:

BigJohn 01-17-2015 11:48 AM

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The GT looks too experimental; the production cars will look a little differant.


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