East Texas Area ZR-1 Owner Needs Help - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

billybaloneey · 08-17-2016

I have a '94...#445...it has been sitting in my garage for a couple of years...it was running at the time of storage. I had been keeping it on a trickle charger and would start it up occasionally. A few months back I tried to start it...no response...not even a starter click sound. Went and got a new battery, thinking that was the issue...installed the new battery...still, not even a starter click. Took the battery back for an exchange thinking that might have been the issue...they load tested it and said it was good.

Putting out a call for mechanically inclined ZR-1 owners in the area/vacinity of East Texas...Beaumont is a nearby larger city...for reference purposes. I will make it worth while for any on-site assistance/help to get it running again. At this point I'm concerned about fuel stagnation becoming a bigger issue later due to not being able to keeping it running.

Thanks,
Clint

GOLDCYLON · 08-17-2016

Are the interior lights coming on ? The start up lights in the DIC? Is the security light flashing ?

Or are you reporting you have ZERO power. Or POWER but no start ?

Paul Workman · 08-17-2016

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Originally Posted by billybaloneey

I have a '94...#445...it has been sitting in my garage for a couple of years...it was running at the time of storage. I had been keeping it on a trickle charger and would start it up occasionally. A few months back I tried to start it...no response...not even a starter click sound. Went and got a new battery, thinking that was the issue...installed the new battery...still, not even a starter click. Took the battery back for an exchange thinking that might have been the issue...they load tested it and said it was good.

Putting out a call for mechanically inclined ZR-1 owners in the area/vacinity of East Texas...Beaumont is a nearby larger city...for reference purposes. I will make it worth while for any on-site assistance/help to get it running again. At this point I'm concerned about fuel stagnation becoming a bigger issue later due to not being able to keeping it running.

Thanks,
Clint

I agree w/ Daryl (above), far as some clues go.

Here is a link to an article by Marc Haibeck regarding starter issues. Some very good info here, and in particular his procedure for "waking up" a starter that may not have been exercised for a while.

Below is a starter circuit diagram of the 93+ cars. In RED is the high current path to the starter. The GREEN path is that of the relay current; relays that handle the heavy current. (You may read a lot about a "installing a RELAY" in some threads, including a relay schematic. However, this modification I designed for the 90-92s and shouldn't be confused with the 93-95 cars. (HOWEVER, that isn't to say your clutch switch couldn't be the problem: just not nearly as likely.)

Keep us posted...

billybaloneey · 08-17-2016

Thanks for the quick replies...in my initial post I should have added that the complete electrical system is dead...and that I had already suspected a single point of failure...or at least that's a logical assumption for me.

I guess it's time to break out the test light and VOM, and some troubleshooting.

Thanks for the schematic that was posted.

GOLDCYLON · 08-17-2016

Id pull the battery and start with the cables. You mentioned this was stored for a while so rodents chewing up the wires would be an area of concern.

gbrtng · 08-17-2016

Start at the terminal block behind the battery - corrosion is your enemy - that's the distribution center for all the vehicle's power.

USAFPILOT · 08-18-2016

any mice in that garage?

08-17-2016	#1
billybaloneey Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mauriceville, Texas Posts: 179	East Texas Area ZR-1 Owner Needs Help I have a '94...#445...it has been sitting in my garage for a couple of years...it was running at the time of storage. I had been keeping it on a trickle charger and would start it up occasionally. A few months back I tried to start it...no response...not even a starter click sound. Went and got a new battery, thinking that was the issue...installed the new battery...still, not even a starter click. Took the battery back for an exchange thinking that might have been the issue...they load tested it and said it was good. Putting out a call for mechanically inclined ZR-1 owners in the area/vacinity of East Texas...Beaumont is a nearby larger city...for reference purposes. I will make it worth while for any on-site assistance/help to get it running again. At this point I'm concerned about fuel stagnation becoming a bigger issue later due to not being able to keeping it running. Thanks, Clint

08-17-2016	#2
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,120	Re: East Texas Area ZR-1 Owner Needs Help Are the interior lights coming on ? The start up lights in the DIC? Is the security light flashing ? Or are you reporting you have ZERO power. Or POWER but no start ? __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

08-17-2016	#5
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,120	Re: East Texas Area ZR-1 Owner Needs Help Id pull the battery and start with the cables. You mentioned this was stored for a while so rodents chewing up the wires would be an area of concern. __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

08-17-2016	#6
gbrtng Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio area Posts: 1,177	Re: East Texas Area ZR-1 Owner Needs Help Start at the terminal block behind the battery - corrosion is your enemy - that's the distribution center for all the vehicle's power. __________________ “Buy the best example of what you want, and pay whatever it takes. That way, you cry only once.” ~ Bruce Meyer

08-18-2016	#7
USAFPILOT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Spring TX Posts: 1,341	Re: East Texas Area ZR-1 Owner Needs Help any mice in that garage?