Who's running a single mass in the North East? - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

voxdeidave · 01-07-2011

Hey guys,
So 1991 #384 is going to be getting a new clutch and flywheel this summer....hopefully! (94,xxx) its about time.....
I've been reading everything I can get my hands on regarding the single mass/dual mass flywheel topic. I'd really like to to stay with the original dual mass setup, but I have to admit, the price difference of the SM is at least getting my attention.
So, I was wondering.....is there anyone in the PA, NJ, DE, MD area that's running a SM setup that would be willing to let me see, hear, and maybe drive before I make up my mind? My car will never be on the track, its just a really nice sunday cruiser, but I've read alot about the additional gear noise at idle and other associated sounds. I can live with some, but I don't want to negatively affect the driving characteristics. I just want to keep her soundly on the road for another 100,000 miles of driving fun!
If anyone is willing to talk shoot me an email.....I'm still new to the zr1 community, so meeting anybody here in PA would also be an added benefit!
And if anybody from the zr1 crowd ever makes their way up here to Blue Mountain Ski they better give me a yell! We are three miles away!

Thanks,
Dave
dmacbeth@lvpa.org

sammy · 01-08-2011

i dont live around you but i will tell you that you will just love the lighter setup car revs so much better , you just when taking off add just a little more ga padel ,but it isnt a bother , and the gear moise isnt bad at all . especially if you have corey or mark do a prom for you . they just increase the idle rpms to 800 and you really have to work to hear the gears .jmho

Paul Workman · 01-08-2011

I agree w/ Sammy. I like my Fidanza very much. Marc Haibeck put my idle at 750, but as it happened, I later learned I had a couple injectors starting to go bad (OEM injectors vs. alcohol in the fuel issue). I installed new Accel injectors (part number 150821 from Summit Racing) and ALL of the rattle is gone! You be the judge (pardon the occasional wind noise).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1YFa8ruh8A

You may need some special bolts, depending on the pressure plate you end up with: the stock ZR-1 thickness or the slightly thinner LTx pressure plate - require different length bolts. Either way, that can be addressed - come on back here!

P.

PS; You should also get the 1-1/8" 7/16"x20 grade 8 bolts for the FW, AND put some SBC hardened (and slightly thicker) head bolt washers under the FW bolts. Use the RED LockTite.

P.

ZR-1nce removed · 01-08-2011

Keep an eye on the southeast regional section for the next WAZOO maintenance day, there will more than likely be a ZR-1 there with the SMFW. We have installed several over the last year, some are quieter than others. The last one we did was in Dave's 94 but we also installed a balanced trans from Bill B and the noise was almost non existant. Make the trip to MD the next time we get together it will be worth your time.

RICKYRJ1 · 01-08-2011

Love mine, very little noise and saved a lot of weight. She spins up nice & fast

voxdeidave · 01-09-2011

Excellent boys!
Thanks for the help.....
Now, next question......Fidanza or the billet steel set-up from carolina clutch? I'm not going to be rebuilding the trans at this point (if I can help it!), but with what I'm saving from the DM flywheel I think I am going to plan on new injectors and a prom chip.

Kb7tif · 01-10-2011

Every Car will react differently with the single mass aluminum flywheel. I have heard cars that are silent and cars that are ridiculously loud.
Mine was pretty quiet. If your trans is worn or engine isnt 100% it will let you know right away

.
The car will rev up a hell of a lot quicker in first and second then theres not much change. Enjoy. Well worth the 300$.

ZZZZZR1 · 01-11-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by voxdeidave

Excellent boys!
Thanks for the help.....
Now, next question......Fidanza or the billet steel set-up from carolina clutch? I'm not going to be rebuilding the trans at this point (if I can help it!), but with what I'm saving from the DM flywheel I think I am going to plan on new injectors and a prom chip.

Dave,

If you can meet up with us sometime, your welcome to drive my Z....

I have a new stock clutch, fidanza and new balanced / blueprinted transmission. Unbelievable!

How far are you from Baltimore MD?

Tyler Townsley · 01-11-2011

Anyone have the light fw with a dual clutch setup?

Tyler

sammy · 01-11-2011

i will in about 3 weeks soon as i get back from business. bil b will be putting it in for me on my 90 .

01-07-2011	#1
voxdeidave Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Saylorsburg, PA Posts: 50	Who's running a single mass in the North East? Hey guys, So 1991 #384 is going to be getting a new clutch and flywheel this summer....hopefully! (94,xxx) its about time..... I've been reading everything I can get my hands on regarding the single mass/dual mass flywheel topic. I'd really like to to stay with the original dual mass setup, but I have to admit, the price difference of the SM is at least getting my attention. So, I was wondering.....is there anyone in the PA, NJ, DE, MD area that's running a SM setup that would be willing to let me see, hear, and maybe drive before I make up my mind? My car will never be on the track, its just a really nice sunday cruiser, but I've read alot about the additional gear noise at idle and other associated sounds. I can live with some, but I don't want to negatively affect the driving characteristics. I just want to keep her soundly on the road for another 100,000 miles of driving fun! If anyone is willing to talk shoot me an email.....I'm still new to the zr1 community, so meeting anybody here in PA would also be an added benefit! And if anybody from the zr1 crowd ever makes their way up here to Blue Mountain Ski they better give me a yell! We are three miles away! Thanks, Dave dmacbeth@lvpa.org

01-08-2011	#2
sammy Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Lone Pine, CA Posts: 580	Re: Who's running a single mass in the North East? i dont live around you but i will tell you that you will just love the lighter setup car revs so much better , you just when taking off add just a little more ga padel ,but it isnt a bother , and the gear moise isnt bad at all . especially if you have corey or mark do a prom for you . they just increase the idle rpms to 800 and you really have to work to hear the gears .jmho

01-08-2011	#4
ZR-1nce removed Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gettysburg, PA Posts: 247	Re: Who's running a single mass in the North East? Keep an eye on the southeast regional section for the next WAZOO maintenance day, there will more than likely be a ZR-1 there with the SMFW. We have installed several over the last year, some are quieter than others. The last one we did was in Dave's 94 but we also installed a balanced trans from Bill B and the noise was almost non existant. Make the trip to MD the next time we get together it will be worth your time. __________________ 90 ZR-1 #0951 Bright Red (sold) 06 Z51 MN6 Velocity Yellow (sold) 2023 C-8 Z51 ELB WAZOO Member

01-08-2011	#5
RICKYRJ1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tinton Falls, NJ Posts: 1,169	Re: Who's running a single mass in the North East? Love mine, very little noise and saved a lot of weight. She spins up nice & fast

01-09-2011	#6
voxdeidave Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Saylorsburg, PA Posts: 50	Re: Who's running a single mass in the North East? Excellent boys! Thanks for the help..... Now, next question......Fidanza or the billet steel set-up from carolina clutch? I'm not going to be rebuilding the trans at this point (if I can help it!), but with what I'm saving from the DM flywheel I think I am going to plan on new injectors and a prom chip.

01-08-2011	#3
Paul Workman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Squires (near Ava MO in the Mark Twain N'tl Forest) - Missouri Posts: 6,466	Re: Who's running a single mass in the North East? I agree w/ Sammy. I like my Fidanza very much. Marc Haibeck put my idle at 750, but as it happened, I later learned I had a couple injectors starting to go bad (OEM injectors vs. alcohol in the fuel issue). I installed new Accel injectors (part number 150821 from Summit Racing) and ALL of the rattle is gone! You be the judge (pardon the occasional wind noise). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1YFa8ruh8A You may need some special bolts, depending on the pressure plate you end up with: the stock ZR-1 thickness or the slightly thinner LTx pressure plate - require different length bolts. Either way, that can be addressed - come on back here! P. PS; You should also get the 1-1/8" 7/16"x20 grade 8 bolts for the FW, AND put some SBC hardened (and slightly thicker) head bolt washers under the FW bolts. Use the RED LockTite. P. Last edited by Paul Workman; 01-09-2011 at 10:14 AM.

01-10-2011	#7
Kb7tif Join Date: May 2009 Location: S Nevada Posts: 351	Re: Who's running a single mass in the North East? Every Car will react differently with the single mass aluminum flywheel. I have heard cars that are silent and cars that are ridiculously loud. Mine was pretty quiet. If your trans is worn or engine isnt 100% it will let you know right away. The car will rev up a hell of a lot quicker in first and second then theres not much change. Enjoy. Well worth the 300$.

01-11-2011	#9
Tyler Townsley Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nichols, FL Posts: 611	Re: Who's running a single mass in the North East? Anyone have the light fw with a dual clutch setup? Tyler