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blackjack · 01-12-2006

hi guys
ive had that problem since i bought the car...i know youre going to say-why didnt you fix it before?....now is the time...
every time i unlock the car,the interior lights go on(normal)...the problem is they will stay on for 15-20 minutes before turning off...you look like an idiot,going down the highway at one in the morning,with all your lights on,
including the light for the spare compartment...how do i fixx that?
my guess is ill have to change some module,but which one?
thanks
blackjack

tomtom72 · 01-12-2006

Hi Blackjack, I tried to look it up in my Helm as I have a 90 also. I must be stupid as I can only come up with one of two sources for the malfunction: the relay for the courtsey lights or the CCM.

I'm gonna try to re-read the section later and see if I can make some sense out of it. The electrical book, 8A, has "courtsey lights don't work" but nothing for staying on too long!

Sorry I wish I knew more about electronic cars!

I know that there is such a thing as a time delay relay but I don't know if that is what is used in our cars.

Hopefully some one with the know how will see this and offer some help.

Tom

WB9MCW · 01-12-2006

SORRY I do not know the fix!!! I wanted to tell you this story about my pops (passed 4 years ago) his name was Jack. His nickname was BlackJack from his days at Ingersoll-Rand Co.(all the guys had nicknames there..pop's was an excellent poker player) Later in life he owned an Industrial Pump Dist. Biz(I-R was his main pump line) and when he hosted his Big Golf outing each year it was called the BlackJack Invitational for all the good clients and co. salesmen. The trophy for the low gross(which got the winner an invite the next year to defend) was a big Black Jack(like the toy jack game) on a wood base. Everyone always commented about that trophy and how big the jack was(abt 6"x 6") and such a unique trophy. It is one of my prized heirlooms I remember my father by! Just thought you would like the story!!!

cya, Bryan

blackjack · 01-13-2006

my real name is jacques...one of my english-speaking supplier
started to call me blackjack shellac...im sure everybody remembers the famous blackjack shellac-bugs bunny confrontation

WB9MCW · 01-13-2006

ok well that explains how u got ur nickname!!!! lol

BLACKJACK SHELLAC DOES LOOK FRENCH...I SEE WHY THE GUY CALLS U BLACKJACK SHELLAC!!!

evidentally u share the name with a cat from Canada... oh no I see the cat passed away in 2005...Guess ur the only Blackjack up there now!!!

http://home.ican.net/~otiss/bjs/bjs.html

too bad the cat died...good looking feline!!!

MY GREY CAT LOOKS CLOSE TO THIS ONE !!!!

blackjack · 01-13-2006

he looks french,huh?
well just shave his moustache,and it might be me !!

but then,that doesnt fix my light problem !!!

blackjack
91/1735

WB9MCW · 01-13-2006

Not to worry BlackJack I sent a pm to a great mech. over on corvettemechanic.com and a email request to ZR-1 Pete to see if either have ideas...hopefully we will get some ideas for you!

Pete · 01-16-2006

Blackjack,start with the door switch's they are a common issue with our cars.

Open your doors and push on both door switch's have a friend help, if your interior lights go off then it's one of your switches,you can either buy a new one or put a strip of valcro on the door to push the switch further in.

blackjack · 01-16-2006

pete,
i dont think the problem is with the door switch...they work all right in every day situation...there has to be some kind of delay switch that keeps the lights on for a while when you unlock the doors with the key,and i think that the switch is confused...im trying to find the name/location of that
(&*?%?%$ module ! i already changed the door switches...how cheap!

blackjack shellac
91/1735

Pete · 01-16-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackjack

pete,
i dont think the problem is with the door switch...they work all right in every day situation...there has to be some kind of delay switch that keeps the lights on for a while when you unlock the doors with the key,and i think that the switch is confused...im trying to find the name/location of that
(&*?%?%$ module ! i already changed the door switches...how cheap!

blackjack shellac
91/1735

If you changed the switch's and you are 100 % sure the new switch's are compressed all the way when the doors are closed,then most likely it's your BCM/CCM.Borrow one to try before you buy.

When you say the switch's work fine everyday situation what do you mean by that,is the problem intermitting.
Our cars do have a door switch issue where they just don't compress the switch's enough to shut the lights off.
Also if the CCM realizes theres a voltage draw for about 15-20 minutes it will shut the lights off.
This is the reason i'm leaning towards the switch's or the interior light switch is in the on position.

Hope this helps.
I can't help much without trouble shooting the car.

01-12-2006	#1
blackjack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: north of montreal Posts: 510	interior lights hi guys ive had that problem since i bought the car...i know youre going to say-why didnt you fix it before?....now is the time... every time i unlock the car,the interior lights go on(normal)...the problem is they will stay on for 15-20 minutes before turning off...you look like an idiot,going down the highway at one in the morning,with all your lights on, including the light for the spare compartment...how do i fixx that? my guess is ill have to change some module,but which one? thanks blackjack

01-12-2006	#2
tomtom72 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA Posts: 4,637	Re: interior lights Hi Blackjack, I tried to look it up in my Helm as I have a 90 also. I must be stupid as I can only come up with one of two sources for the malfunction: the relay for the courtsey lights or the CCM. I'm gonna try to re-read the section later and see if I can make some sense out of it. The electrical book, 8A, has "courtsey lights don't work" but nothing for staying on too long! Sorry I wish I knew more about electronic cars! I know that there is such a thing as a time delay relay but I don't know if that is what is used in our cars. Hopefully some one with the know how will see this and offer some help. Tom __________________ 1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member

01-12-2006	#3
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,596	Re: interior lights SORRY I do not know the fix!!! I wanted to tell you this story about my pops (passed 4 years ago) his name was Jack. His nickname was BlackJack from his days at Ingersoll-Rand Co.(all the guys had nicknames there..pop's was an excellent poker player) Later in life he owned an Industrial Pump Dist. Biz(I-R was his main pump line) and when he hosted his Big Golf outing each year it was called the BlackJack Invitational for all the good clients and co. salesmen. The trophy for the low gross(which got the winner an invite the next year to defend) was a big Black Jack(like the toy jack game) on a wood base. Everyone always commented about that trophy and how big the jack was(abt 6"x 6") and such a unique trophy. It is one of my prized heirlooms I remember my father by! Just thought you would like the story!!! cya, Bryan __________________ [IMG]http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/SIG-2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/vcm.gif[/IMG] [FONT="System"][SIZE="3"]"The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC " We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln[/SIZE][/FONT] Last edited by WB9MCW; 01-12-2006 at 08:31 PM.

01-13-2006	#4
blackjack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: north of montreal Posts: 510	Re: interior lights my real name is jacques...one of my english-speaking supplier started to call me blackjack shellac...im sure everybody remembers the famous blackjack shellac-bugs bunny confrontation

01-13-2006	#5
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,596	Re: interior lights ok well that explains how u got ur nickname!!!! lol BLACKJACK SHELLAC DOES LOOK FRENCH...I SEE WHY THE GUY CALLS U BLACKJACK SHELLAC!!! evidentally u share the name with a cat from Canada... oh no I see the cat passed away in 2005...Guess ur the only Blackjack up there now!!! http://home.ican.net/~otiss/bjs/bjs.html too bad the cat died...good looking feline!!! MY GREY CAT LOOKS CLOSE TO THIS ONE !!!! __________________ [IMG]http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/SIG-2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/vcm.gif[/IMG] [FONT="System"][SIZE="3"]"The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC " We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln[/SIZE][/FONT] Last edited by WB9MCW; 01-13-2006 at 12:59 PM.

01-13-2006	#6
blackjack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: north of montreal Posts: 510	Re: interior lights he looks french,huh? well just shave his moustache,and it might be me !! but then,that doesnt fix my light problem !!! blackjack 91/1735

01-13-2006	#7
WB9MCW Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: McHenry, Il. Posts: 6,596	Re: interior lights Not to worry BlackJack I sent a pm to a great mech. over on corvettemechanic.com and a email request to ZR-1 Pete to see if either have ideas...hopefully we will get some ideas for you! __________________ [IMG]http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/SIG-2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/wb9mcw/vcm.gif[/IMG] [FONT="System"][SIZE="3"]"The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." - Cicero, 55 BC " We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln[/SIZE][/FONT]

01-16-2006	#8
Pete Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicagoland,IL Posts: 2,675	Re: interior lights Blackjack,start with the door switch's they are a common issue with our cars. Open your doors and push on both door switch's have a friend help, if your interior lights go off then it's one of your switches,you can either buy a new one or put a strip of valcro on the door to push the switch further in. __________________ '91 #1635 PoloGreen 350 LT5 11.09 @ 129.27 11.04 @ 128.86 474RWHP 400RWTQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFNFOhGGlR4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlRIOMwaDYY https://sites.google.com/site/peteszr1garage

01-16-2006	#9
blackjack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: north of montreal Posts: 510	Re: interior lights pete, i dont think the problem is with the door switch...they work all right in every day situation...there has to be some kind of delay switch that keeps the lights on for a while when you unlock the doors with the key,and i think that the switch is confused...im trying to find the name/location of that (&*?%?%$ module ! i already changed the door switches...how cheap! blackjack shellac 91/1735