Looking to Buy ZR1

[C4Ray]

Hello Gentlemen -

I'm in the market for a ZR1. Looking seriously about 8 months. I'm currently a 93' C4 owner (2nd owner since 2002) so I have some knowledge and my Father was a multiple Corvette owner. Ideally, I would like to purchase a 1994-1995 ZR1. Dark purple, blue and yellow come to mind. I don't want a project .... more like a well cared for Z. Right now I'm looking at a local 94' yellow and 95' yellow in Texas. The 94' has no Dunn Heads and the 95' has Dunn Heads - whatever that means?

The 94 - 48k miles one owner Z.

The 95' - 7k miles very well cared for Z.

Advice / Comments Appreciated.

Thanks for having me. :)

[Schrade]

Welcome onto the boards there.

[KILLSHOTS]

The 95s are arguably a bit more valuable because they're last-year cars. Cars with 2 Dunn heads are even more valuable. That yellow 95 in Amarillo is beautiful and well-priced, and he's even offering a shipping concession that would probably cover most of your costs. I haven't seen it in person but it looks like it will need nothing, so it would probably be cheaper than the higher-mile local car in the long run. I just went through the same thing and If I had it to do over again, I would have skipped over mine and spent more for a near-perfect example. JMO.

Good luck!

[We Gone]

Welcome Ray, If you have questions the guys here have answers. Good Luck in your search hope you find what your lookin for and join our ranks.

[Paul Workman]

The 95s "as is" are real cream puffs: all the C4 refinements therein. But, unless you're optimizing re-sale value as your ultimate goal, I wouldn't give the Dunn heads a lot of thought. Primarily, because even with very conservative porting, it is possible to eclipse the small advantage realized in the Dunn heads. But, in concert with the rest of the car, the 95s hold the highest price tag; coming or going, "as is".

[USAZR1]

The 95s are arguably a bit more valuable because they're last-year cars. Cars with 2 Dunn heads are even more valuable. That yellow 95 in Amarillo is beautiful and well-priced, and he's even offering a shipping concession that would probably cover most of your costs. I haven't seen it in person but it looks like it will need nothing, so it would probably be cheaper than the higher-mile local car in the long run. I just went through the same thing and If I had it to do over again, I would have skipped over mine and spent more for a near-perfect example. JMO.
Good luck!


I agree,100%. I knew David Tate,the original owner of the Yellow 95 who has since passed away. I've also known the present owner, Don Roden,for over fifteen years. He really takes care of his cars.

[C4Ray]

I'm considering this Z (No Dunn Heads). Comments and opinions welcomed - Thank you.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4707255024.html

[We Gone]

I'm considering this Z (No Dunn Heads). Comments and opinions welcomed - Thank you.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4707255024.html

Nice and nice price.

[ZZZZZR1]

I'm considering this Z (No Dunn Heads). Comments and opinions welcomed - Thank you.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4707255024.html

Looks like a great car!!!!

Check the weatherstrip (in good condition?), wheels (make sure they are original wheels chromed), tires (date code and make) and maintenance done to it

Shame I was just in orlando the past 2 days and could have checked it out

Drive it and see for yourself!!

:cheers:

David

[Z06scentair]

The first thing that comes to mind for me is be sure you know what you really want.

The two cars you posted are entirely different animals. The 95 car in Texas is show ready Bloomington/NCRS. This car will be difficult to drive and maintain it's pristinism....lol is that a word?

The second car appears to be loved and owned by a ZR-1 person. This car having the 48k miles will be a driver and has been modified ie: tinted windows and chrome wheels.

To get the second car back to stock form your talking some fold over bills, while the first car is there. To modify the first car will require some fold over money as well.

12k difference in price is substantial, if your looking for a pristine under 10k mile 95 be preparred for 40k period, and know to maintain the investment you will not be able to drive it much.

If you want a driver find one with 50k, and above and save yourself alot of money, not to mention worry.

Best of luck in your search.

Brad

[KILLSHOTS]

The first thing that comes to mind for me is be sure you know what you really want.

The two cars you posted are entirely different animals. The 95 car in Texas is show ready Bloomington/NCRS. This car will be difficult to drive and maintain it's pristinism....lol is that a word?

The second car appears to be loved and owned by a ZR-1 person. This car having the 48k miles will be a driver and has been modified ie: tinted windows and chrome wheels.

To get the second car back to stock form your talking some fold over bills, while the first car is there. To modify the first car will require some fold over money as well.

12k difference in price is substantial, if your looking for a pristine under 10k mile 95 be preparred for 40k period, and know to maintain the investment you will not be able to drive it much.

If you want a driver find one with 50k, and above and save yourself alot of money, not to mention worry.

Best of luck in your search.

Brad
Brad's exactly right: the 2 cars you're currently considering are like apples and oranges. One is a nice driver and the other is a garage queen, so it sounds to me like it really comes down to what sort of car you want. As much as I'd like to have that Texas car in my garage, I myself would never consider even a single modification on that particular example and would be somewhat afraid to even drive it, quite frankly. The Orlando car would certainly be the better choice if you want to exercise the Permagrin!

[Z51JEFF]

Dont get cought up in the DUNN head hoopla,Id buy the cleanest car I could find.Heres the scoop on the DUNN heads if you havent heard it by now.BIRMAL heads where originally used on the cars from 90-94.At some point the founder that made the heads went out of business so GM had to find another founder to cast the heads and thats were DUNN comes in.People say the DUNN heads breath a little easier than the BIRMAL heads,not sure if that true or not.Some 95s have one of each head,go figure.That 94 with 18,000 miles is the car to get at a smokin price.

[B17 Crew]

An observation, the Florida Z has ’95 gill panels rather than ’94 gill panels. When the seller states “The car is all original and not modified”, owner is likely referring the the motor. I’ve been drooling over that ’95 in Texas!

Good luck on your search!

B17 Crew
:hello:

[C4Ray]

That 94 with 18,000 miles is the car to get at a smokin price.

Thanks Jeff, but the Orlando 94' Z has 48,000 miles - Not 18,000. :)

So the Dunn Heads thing is no big deal. Thanks for clarifying.

[C4Ray]

Another Competition Yellow Z For Sale: http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Marketplace/ZR1sForSale/tabid/166/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1880/1994-YellowBeige-22400-mi--42500-TN.aspx

[Z51JEFF]

Another Competition Yellow Z For Sale: http://www.zr1netregistry.com/Marketplace/ZR1sForSale/tabid/166/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1880/1994-YellowBeige-22400-mi--42500-TN.aspx

This car is way over priced,for that money Ive seen basically new 95s.

[KILLSHOTS]

Thanks Jeff, but the Orlando 94' Z has 48,000 miles - Not 18,000. :)

So the Dunn Heads thing is no big deal. Thanks for clarifying.
Just a clarification: my statement regarding the Dunn heads was relative to value, not performance. A car with 2 Dunn heads is always going to be more valuable to a collector, and the 95 in Texas is clearly going to be purchased by a collector.

Also, just to add to what B17 Crew stated above, the owner of the Orlando car calls it "perfect" in the ad. Personally, I get really shaky whenever anybody calls anything "perfect," especially a 20-year old car with 48,000 miles. If it was me, I would absolutely SHRED the car right in front of the guy. Pick apart every single nut and bolt and question his "perfect" car again and again. Buts that's just me.

[C4Ray]

Thanks a lot fellas - I very much appreciate the feedback.

[Meanmyz]

No offense Killshots, but I would not tear apart that guy's "pride and joy" in front of him. It sounds like the '94 is close to you, so go look at it.

I think I would look seriously at the '94. It sounds like a nice car, and if it is, it will be one you can drive and enjoy. Being able to drive a car and keeping it nice aren't mutually exclusive, but it would be kind of a shame to start driving the '95 (putting lots of miles on it) in my own opinion.

[KILLSHOTS]

No offense Killshots, but I would not tear apart that guy's "pride and joy" in front of him. It sounds like the '94 is close to you, so go look at it.

I think I would look seriously at the '94. It sounds like a nice car, and if it is, it will be one you can drive and enjoy. Being able to drive a car and keeping it nice aren't mutually exclusive, but it would be kind of a shame to start driving the '95 (putting lots of miles on it) in my own opinion.
I may be alone in this but when you call a car "perfect", you're inviting an extraordinary amount of scrutiny. A buyer must only find ONE flaw to prove his description to be a complete exaggeration. Call it anything you want, just don't call it "perfect."

[efnfast]

I may be alone in this but when you call a car "perfect", you're inviting an extraordinary amount of scrutiny. A buyer must only find ONE flaw to prove his description to be a complete exaggeration. Call it anything you want, just don't call it "perfect."
Gotta' back KILLSHOTS up on this one. Words like this are way overused. Didn't we just have this discussion?

[edram454]

dont go for the garage queen. 18k miles isnt that low considering tons of zr1's have less than that. The moment you drive the 18k miler it will be losing money. you wont enjoy it much and worst of all its stock. I dont know about you but I would hate to be in a beautiful and brutal looking zr1 on the turnpike just to be embarrassed by a new mustang stocker. The 48k miler is a car that has been driven and has had maintenance. It is also a car you can tinker with to bring out more power. With a little tinkering there wont be any new stocker mustangs passing you any time soon. The price is so much better on the 48k miler so its a no brainer for me.

ed ramos #3028

[WARP TEN]

This car is way over priced,for that money Ive seen basically new 95s.

Sports Car Market Letter's Pricing Guide for 2014--which uses auction results for its numbers--shows 1995 ZR-1s with a range of $31,500 to $43,000 for a stock car, and $30,500-$41,500 for 94s; add $1,300 to each for a second top. --Bob

[XfireZ51]

These cars are just too much fun to drive. Mine is obviously modified and I just can't imagine going back to a stock car and being happy. The power of the dark side is too intoxicating.

[Paul Workman]

These cars are just too much fun to drive. Mine is obviously modified and I just can't imagine going back to a stock car and being happy. The power of the dark side is too intoxicating.

Totally agree!:cheers:

[Z51JEFF]

Sports Car Market Letter's Pricing Guide for 2014--which uses auction results for its numbers--shows 1995 ZR-1s with a range of $31,500 to $43,000 for a stock car, and $30,500-$41,500 for 94s; add $1,300 to each for a second top. --Bob

The-add $1300 for the second top- should have told you this price guide isnt even close to the real world market.

[WARP TEN]

Hi Ray-- I sent you a Private Message a couple of days ago about a car I know about. Just wondered if you got it.--Bob

[C4Ray]

Got it - Will be in touch. Thx.

[C4Ray]

Hello everyone.

I took a break for a while looking for the ZR1. However, now I see there are very few on the market for sale. I was wondering if that 95' yellow Z in Texas sold? That Z was owned by a guy who passed away, and was being sold by his buddy ... It was a low mileage mint Z with light brown interior and yellow exterior. Any info appreciated.

Thx.

[USAZR1]

Hello everyone.
I took a break for a while looking for the ZR1. However, now I see there are very few on the market for sale. I was wondering if that 95' yellow Z in Texas sold? That Z was owned by a guy who passed away, and was being sold by his buddy ... It was a low mileage mint Z with light brown interior and yellow exterior. Any info appreciated.
Thx.


Yes,Don still has the car for sale.

[ghlkal]

However, now I see there are very few on the market for sale.

There are several on here right now including USAZR1's
http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24201


Good luck with your search

[C4Ray]

Yes, Don still has the car for sale.

You are serious? Wow! I felt sure Don's yellow Z would sell quickly. Where is Don?

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Hello everyone.

I took a break for a while looking for the ZR1. However, now I see there are very few on the market for sale. I was wondering if that 95' yellow Z in Texas sold? That Z was owned by a guy who passed away, and was being sold by his buddy ... It was a low mileage mint Z with light brown interior and yellow exterior. Any info appreciated.

Thx.

If you are not set on a yellow or 95, Clint who just replied to you has the deal of the century for sale if you ask me:

http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24201&page=4

If I was not stuck by CA emissions, I would have been all over this car.

[C4Ray]

Guys-
I found a local Z for sale but I'm flying out of the country so I can't see it anytime soon. Anyone care to comment on this one? The good and the bad? The only reason I'm considering it is because it's close by where I live.

Thanks :)

http://www.mercedesbenzofpompano.com/used/1991/chevrolet/corvette/1991-chevrolet-corvette-pompano-beach-for-sale-1g1yz23j6m5801302

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-/111654513425?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ff20ab11&item=111654513425

[Z51JEFF]

That got too much crap goin on but for the price can't beat it.

[RICKYRJ1]

That got too much crap goin on but for the price can't beat it.

I agree but that all can be easily turned around. Dealer has some wiggle room on the price, so go beat him up :dancing

[Franke]

Maybe sold already?. When I click on view inspection reports on Ebay ad it says "vehicle no longer available" but the Ebay ad is still there. HMMM...

[C4Ray]

Fellas:

This blue Z is still for sale so I am seriously looking at bidding. What would you bid? What is it worth in your opinion? Any feedback, the good, bad and or ugly appreciated. I might even bid sight unseen as I'm working and not near the homestead. THX. :dancing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-/111654513425?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ff20ab11&item=111654513425

[Z51JEFF]

Fellas:

This blue Z is still for sale so I am seriously looking at bidding. What would you bid? What is it worth in your opinion? Any feedback, the good, bad and or ugly appreciated. I might even bid sight unseen as I'm working and not near the homestead. THX. :dancing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-/111654513425?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ff20ab11&item=111654513425

Good luck.

[C4Ray]

Good luck.

Care to elaborate?

[BigJohn]

Looks good with the new paint and body panels.

[We Gone]

Fellas:

This blue Z is still for sale so I am seriously looking at bidding. What would you bid? What is it worth in your opinion? Any feedback, the good, bad and or ugly appreciated. I might even bid sight unseen as I'm working and not near the homestead. THX. :dancing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-/111654513425?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ff20ab11&item=111654513425

Looks like a nice car....But why was the front repainted? also right front corner hood to bumper does not look to fit right.

[BigJohn]

Gill panels are 94 and 95!

[C4Ray]

Ok

[SteveCanyon]

I had someone do an inspection on the blue 91 at the Mercedes place. The dash lights are on their way out (fuel gauge, etc). It also appears the dash had been pulled apart as well. He did say the paint looked very nice though. Pretty good delamination of the windshield too. He said it was a nice car but for $20.9K (dealer will not budge one penny, but will waive the $600 dealer fee if bought on ebay) but not for that kind of money. Still unknown about the injectors if they had ever been replaced, he did not get to drive it. Weatherstripping in the trunk area came up with the hatch when opened. Lots of little things, but the deal breaker for me was most likely having to pull the dash out and send it off. He did say they were going to put new tires on it (not sure which brand). Also, the front fender on the right does not line up quite right. Also, I think there was a 12-13 year gap of no entries on the Carfax, which makes me a bit nervous.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Fellas:

This blue Z is still for sale so I am seriously looking at bidding. What would you bid? What is it worth in your opinion? Any feedback, the good, bad and or ugly appreciated. I might even bid sight unseen as I'm working and not near the homestead. THX. :dancing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR1-/111654513425?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19ff20ab11&item=111654513425

I like the color and low mileage, but these cars really need to be seen in person by someone that knows these cars. Even then you can't see everything, but some issues can turn into high cost. Did you run a CARFAX to get some idea of history on this car? I recommend not rushing or getting set on one car as there will be others. Usually good dealership won't take junk it and this appears to be a high end dealer. See if a ZR-1 owner in the area can check it out for you if possible or definitely use the Registry checklist at the minimum with so many unique things to look for with our cars. I would try to call Russ Kerr (salesperson) and get a feel for what the reserve is. Do a lot of research to compare with others for sale even if you have to ship. I like buying local too so I understand. There are a lot of bargains out there for ZR-1s right now so don't rush as the right one will come along. So difficult to determine what to pay without looking at it and driving it. :cheers:

[SteveCanyon]

I like the color and low mileage, but these cars really need to be seen in person by someone that knows these cars. Even then you can't see everything, but some issues can turn into high cost. Did you run a CARFAX to get some idea of history on this car? I recommend not rushing or getting set on one car as there will be others. Usually good dealership won't take junk it and this appears to be a high end dealer. See if a ZR-1 owner in the area can check it out for you if possible or definitely use the Registry checklist at the minimum with so many unique things to look for with our cars. I would try to call Russ Kerr (salesperson) and get a feel for what the reserve is. Do a lot of research to compare with others for sale even if you have to ship. I like buying local too so I understand. There are a lot of bargains out there for ZR-1s right now so don't rush as the right one will come along. So difficult to determine what to pay without looking at it and driving it. :cheers:

Just posted above you, had the car inspected yesterday by a knowledgeable Z guy. The reserve price is what they are asking on their website, $20.9K.

[HAWAIIZR-1]

Good looking out Steve and I agree with your assessment of the issues and price! An uninformed person might give them what they are asking since it looks nice.

[C4Ray]

Thanks Steve and everyone. I don't like the dash light problem. Gonna walk. Have a great night and thanks again.

[rmendoza]

Thanks Steve and everyone. I don't like the dash light problem. Gonna walk. Have a great night and thanks again.

I know you're looking for a newer ZR-1 but I have a 1990 with 18,700 #0827. It's red on red and bone stock except for a chip that was recently installed. I got it last year from CA out of a collection with 17,335 miles on it. I drive it to car shows and parades and keep it polished. Only work I've had done was the oil change when I first got it and have put about 1400 miles on it.

Given the suggestions from others I hesitate to offer mine. It was in a collection for 8 yrs so it is in very good shape. It had the original tires on it which were like new but not safe so I replaced them with Nitto 555 tires. The only problem just happened recently and is my cd player won't eject the cd and the lite over the COMB button is lit. It's like the cd is stuck and the radio or cassette player won't play. I am going to have that fixed eventually.

Anyway as long as I have it, it will be a driver but it just has low miles now. Prices are rising on nice low mileage Zs so I'm looking for about $29K, which included some posters and memorabilia i.e. signed extra plenum by Dave Mclellan Corvette Chief Engineer. All that I have on my garage wall, plus I have the original window sticker and the pizza box, and The Heart of the Beast book written about the LT5 development and a car show storyboard..........all the stuff that looks great at a car show. Don't know where you are but I'm in Colorado Springs CO.

[C4Ray]

Thanks for the offer Mr. Mendoza but I'm looking for a non-red Z.

Preferably white, blue, yellow, green, purple ... in that order (more or less).

Red is just too flashy for me.

Thank you anyway! :)

[Blue Flame Restorations]

Moving to the For Sale/Wanted Section now that people have seen it for a while.

Good luck on finding your "Z"!!!!!!!!!!!! :handshak: