Shift knob

[randy ransome]

Anybody have a shift knob for a ZR-1 they want to sell. Mine came with a black T-handle and I like it but you can't have a drink in the cup holder and shift without hitting the handle.

[scubasteve]

any pics? and any interest in a stock knob?

[XfireZ51]

Randy,

C5 shift knobs are identical to C4. So you have a wide choice.

[csavaglio]

And new stock ones are pretty inexpensive even if you add the shift pattern insert into the cost. If you get a C5 one, make sure the pattern is the same....I can't remember if C5s have reverse on the right or left.

I think I have a white ball (Hurst or B&M, maybe?) with the shift pattern on it. It was on one of my C4s when I got it....I replaced it with a new stock one. You're welcome to it, if you want it. Maybe 15 bucks shipped?

Chris

[KILLSHOTS]

Randy,

C5 shift knobs are identical to C4. So you have a wide choice.
XFire,

How do they attach? Just traded an 87 4+3 for my new 90 Z. On that, I popped the overdrive button with a screwdriver, pulled out a metal pin with needle-nose pliers and threaded the knob off. Same procedure? So any C5 knob will fit my 90 ZF shifter?

Thanks for the info!
Chris

[randy ransome]

Well I forgot to post my car has a Hurst shifter.

Old age is getting to me.

[csavaglio]

There's a metal T shaped block piece holding it in under the shift pattern part. Its a friction fit and takes some effort to get it out. Then it just threads on like any other knob. Most of the aftermarket shifters have the notch for that piece so you can use the stock shifter. Any other shift knob just threads on.

[WVZR-1]

XFire,

How do they attach? Just traded an 87 4+3 for my new 90 Z. On that, I popped the overdrive button with a screwdriver, pulled out a metal pin with needle-nose pliers and threaded the knob off. Same procedure? So any C5 knob will fit my 90 ZF shifter?

Thanks for the info!
Chris

Removal tutorial - I don't use the "wrecking bar" but there's images that are useful. I use a small "knocker" (slide hammer) - dent puller or seal remover after drilling with an appropriate sized drill bit.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1574666157-post1.html

Randy,

C5 shift knobs are identical to C4. So you have a wide choice.

A bit misleading - the C5 and the C4 share the same 9/16 - 18 thread but that's the end of the similarity. Not everyone is familiar with the difference in the shift patterns. A knob with a shift pattern needs to be for a ZF M6.

[XfireZ51]

The C5 knob itself is identical to the C4. I have both. They screw on the same and use the same "lock key". The difference is the stitching pattern.
And yes the button for the (C4) ZF has Reverse to the right and down rather than Up.

[USAZR1]

Will a C4 shift pattern insert fit in a C5 shift knob? Anyone know where I can find a C4 shift knob in Torch Red? My upholstery shop can reupholster ours but I would rather just buy one,outright.

[XfireZ51]

Clint,

This is a C5 knob I had re-done by Redline. Button is the same. I had the wrong button inserted at the time of the pic.

A view of some additional interior pieces.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/ROZA%20NERO/1406A09A-7A71-40DF-914A-495A4A094FA5_zpsqpolacue.jpg (http://s187.photobucket.com/user/Z51Xfire/media/ROZA%20NERO/1406A09A-7A71-40DF-914A-495A4A094FA5_zpsqpolacue.jpg.html)

[XfireZ51]

Go to www.redlinegoods.com. They have an example of a red/black knob they did using a C5 knob. They show mine as well.

[WVZR-1]

Will a C4 shift pattern insert fit in a C5 shift knob? Anyone know where I can find a C4 shift knob in Torch Red? My upholstery shop can reupholster ours but I would rather just buy one,outright.

I would think there are many used knobs available for use as a core for the one you would like done. I might have one but it might take an effort to put a "hands on"! It might be to your advantage to have a core done by "your guy" vs. an outright buy. If your guy says he can "match" the color you're good. An after-market buy might likely be hit or miss.

Will the insert fit a C5 knob I don't know - is the height of the C5 knob comparable to the C4? I don't know that either but I'd make sure before I did a buy. It doesn't take much difference in height to feel the difference. Shorter might be good. The other thing I guess to check would be the lift-ring functionality. I'm assuming your car has the stock shifter. If it doesn't then maybe it's not an issue.

[USAZR1]

Go to www.redlinegoods.com. They have an example of a red/black knob they did using a C5 knob. They show mine as well.

Thanks for the link,Dom. If my upholstery shop will not re-cover mine,I'll get what I need from Redline.

[USAZR1]

I would think there are many used knobs available for use as a core for the one you would like done. I might have one but it might take an effort to put a "hands on"! It might be to your advantage to have a core done by "your guy" vs. an outright buy. If your guy says he can "match" the color you're good. An after-market buy might likely be hit or miss.

Will the insert fit a C5 knob I don't know - is the height of the C5 knob comparable to the C4? I don't know that either but I'd make sure before I did a buy. It doesn't take much difference in height to feel the difference. Shorter might be good. The other thing I guess to check would be the lift-ring functionality. I'm assuming your car has the stock shifter. If it doesn't then maybe it's not an issue.


All good points,Dave. If I do decide to go with Redline,I'll definitely call them first and make sure I can get the cover in Torch Red.

Yes,our ZR-1 still has the stock shifter.

[XfireZ51]

Clint,

Here's pics of a C5 knob re-done by Redline v stock C4 knob. Should answer your questions. The Redline re-cover adds some added heft to the knob, which I like. The C4 knob is black, obviously.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Mobile%20Uploads/C0860ACA-6E14-4550-BE9A-E08B60FF5345_zpsgpgreibw.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Mobile%20Uploads/EAC44F94-1333-49EE-BD3F-7E9837037F02_zpsayhpdvc0.jpg

Shift button obviously fits. Like I said. They're identical.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/Mobile%20Uploads/799AC1D0-599D-4F00-8F36-19B86AB095F4_zpsxmdloodl.jpg

[WVZR-1]

Clint,

Here's pics of a C5 knob re-done by Redline v stock C4 knob. Should answer your questions. The Redline re-cover adds some added heft to the knob, which I like. The C4 knob is black, obviously.



So it makes the "core" shopping easy - if you like the stitching pattern of the C5 then you use the C5 core so the trimmer can match the stitching or if you prefer the C4 stitching you provide the trimmer with a C4 core. Easy enough.

[USAZR1]

Do the aftermarket shifters (Hurst,B&M,etc) use the same 9/16-18 thread as the stock shifter?

[WVZR-1]

Do the aftermarket shifters (Hurst,B&M,etc) use the same 9/16-18 thread as the stock shifter?

Yes they do and that was the reason for my earlier comment as to that was the only similarity! Of course there's no locking device so it's accomplished with a jam nut. Now if you leave the jam nut off the lever will seat much deeper into the knob and effectively reduce the shift lever length.

This creates a separate issue in that the shift pattern if it's a "patterned knob" is likely not indexed properly. This can be accomplished by stacking washers on the shift lever to effectively change the index of the knob. Mine when secured with no washers is indexed perfectly.

Don't use the jam nut unless you actually want to use it to lock it more securely. Mine is secure with no additional help needed. Lift ring works perfectly - no interference.

[XfireZ51]

The Hurst shifter uses the exact same thread and locking mechanism as the stock shifter. Not familiar w B&M.

[WVZR-1]

The Hurst shifter uses the exact same thread and locking mechanism as the stock shifter. Not familiar w B&M.

The lock on a Hurst and any other ball type shifter is a jamb-nut. There is NO Hurst that uses a lock similar to a C4 stock OR AS I learned a C5 stock shifter. Now if you can show me one of those (a Hurst with a wedge lock) I'll likely be embarrassed but so goes it. I don't believe there is one!

[XfireZ51]

The lock on a Hurst and any other ball type shifter is a jamb-nut. There is NO Hurst that uses a lock similar to a C4 stock OR AS I learned a C5 stock shifter. Now if you can show me one of those (a Hurst with a wedge lock) I'll likely be embarrassed but so goes it. I don't believe there is one!

Unless I misunderstood, I thought USA was asking about the shifter not the Hurst T handle. The picture of my console shows a Hurst short throw shifter w a C4/C5 knob, both of which use the key lock.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x198/Z51Xfire/2F93BA31-E1C6-432A-81FA-E1B0B351E699-1531-0000068353D14110_zps4d0fa128.jpg (http://s187.photobucket.com/user/Z51Xfire/media/2F93BA31-E1C6-432A-81FA-E1B0B351E699-1531-0000068353D14110_zps4d0fa128.jpg.html)

[WVZR-1]

Unless I misunderstood, I thought USA was asking about the shifter not the Hurst T handle. The picture of my console shows a Hurst short throw shifter w a C4/C5 knob, both of which use the key lock.



No I believe I did - I thought the conversation with still "shift knobs". I do like the stock shifter though with just the Hurst ball. The balls available now I don't think are all the Hurst (branded on each side) as most are accustomed to and I believe the diameter has been reduced. The ball shifter mounted as I mentioned does effectively shorten the shift lever considerably!

[USAZR1]

No I believe I did - I thought the conversation with still "shift knobs". I do like the stock shifter though with just the Hurst ball. The balls available now I don't think are all the Hurst (branded on each side) as most are accustomed to and I believe the diameter has been reduced. The ball shifter mounted as I mentioned does effectively shorten the shift lever considerably!

I might like to try a Hurst shifter ball on my stock shifter. You guys pretty much answered my questions about doing that.
Thanks for the info.

[56 ZR1]

Do the later model Z have the reverse lockout ring below the knob as do the 90 model?

[WVZR-1]

Do the later model Z have the reverse lockout ring below the knob as do the 90 model?

Through '94 - depending upon the model number of the ZF it may or may NOT have the provision for the lift ring. A ZF build that ends in 087 or 089 is a "crash-thru" and does not have the lift-ring provision.

[GOLDCYLON]

Or throw caution to the wind and have a new CF knob made to include a CF shift patern insert and wedge pin that locks like the original. Took em a few trys to get this right. GC

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l498/goldcylon/shift1_zpsc915f5b2.jpg (http://s1120.photobucket.com/user/goldcylon/media/shift1_zpsc915f5b2.jpg.html)

[Schrade]

Where's RR? Did you get your Shift Knob?

I got one here that is yours for postage + lunch.

[USAZR1]

I found what I was looking for,today,and ordered it from WCC.
http://www.westcoastcorvette.com/p-686-corvette-shift-knob-custom-leather-two-tone-6-speed-1997-2004-c5-z06.aspx