1990 LPE 402ci.

[rhipsher]

Does anybody here know who's this is. I didn't know LPE made 402's
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Corvette-ZR-1-Hatchback-2-Door-1990-Corvette-ZR-1-Lingenfelter-402cid-623-Hp-1-owner-car-/280917309908?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4167f9f9d4

[Kevin]

that car looks really familiar

[FU]

Nice !

[ZZZZZR1]

Very nice car!!!

Owner says its 623hp with a 402ci and Lingenfelter offers a 415ci with 610hp?
(they are not offering a 402 now but maybe they did 10 years ago)

That car has big brakes, roll cage and fikse's


This is a real NICE car! Love to hear more about it

:cheers:

David

[USAFPILOT]

I think its bs.

[zrwhat]

Looks like the Windshield has been replaced with a later small opening type and work must have been done a long, long time ago, note the old style Borla!

Rear upper carpet has mystery holes probably from a different type roll bar once installed and removed.

Nice looking car but 632hp surely possible but I'd have to see it for myself on a dyno to believe it (assuming rating @ FW).

17" Fiske's look good on this car but 18's would look a whole lot better, more wheel, less tire.

For the right money, be a nice car for someone.

Wonder who did any service work on the car, its in close proximity to Tonys Corvettes in Gaithersburg, MD?

[FU]

He should have the papers from LPE to verify the work done to the car. Including the vin # with the papers.

[cvette98pacecar]

Mystery holes are where the targa top front storage mount would be.
It is a nice car, I would bet to say the owner is thinking 40K plus.
Original owner, three of four trips to Lingenfelter he has over $120,000 dollars in that car.
That is if he bought it at cost. The dealers in Chicago were getting $30,000.00 over sticker for 90's.

[rhipsher]

I would never have questioned the car until I read that it was done by LPE. I'm used to seeing most cars that have been done by LPE having the plenum machined saying Lingenfelter on it. But I guess you could request that they don't do it. But like Frank says it will have paperwork if it was done by them. I've heard nothing but good things about the 402,s.

[Daniel_Mc]

If its the real deal it needs to move to Houston.

Daniel

[rhipsher]

If its the real deal it needs to move to Houston.

Daniel Hummm. What are you trying to say Daniel?:mrgreen:

[cvette98pacecar]

If its the real deal it needs to move to Houston.

Daniel

I was thinking Michigan. I think the seller lives in lala land and the price is going to be north of 40k. Which is not a bad price for what he has in the car. Just not the correct price for today's market.

[Y-me]

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!! Someone please send me to go look at it for them!

[rhipsher]

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!! Someone please send me to go look at it for them! I thought you hated ZR-1's after your first experience with one. Explain yourself sir.:dontknow:

[EV2DEMON]

I would never have questioned the car until I read that it was done by LPE. I'm used to seeing most cars that have been done by LPE having the plenum machined saying Lingenfelter on it. But I guess you could request that they don't do it. But like Frank says it will have paperwork if it was done by them. I've heard nothing but good things about the 402,s.

A few of the earliest Lingenfelter cars did not have the plenum machined. I know of 2 90s for sure that are legit LPE cars without the engraving, this one would make a 3rd that I've seen.

[rhipsher]

A few of the earliest Lingenfelter cars did not have the plenum machined. I know of 2 90s for sure that are legit LPE cars without the engraving, this one would make a 3rd that I've seen. I know G. Gordon Liddys 91 LPE 385 didnt have it engraved. But did LPE ever make a 402? The only ones I ever remember them offering was 368. 385. And 415. They don't offer a 385 build anymore. I'll just email Tim Dyer and ask him.

[Kevin]

I would never have questioned the car until I read that it was done by LPE. I'm used to seeing most cars that have been done by LPE having the plenum machined saying Lingenfelter on it. But I guess you could request that they don't do it. But like Frank says it will have paperwork if it was done by them. I've heard nothing but good things about the 402,s.

the early cars didn't have the engraving and you can request to not have the plenum done.

[Y-me]

I thought you hated ZR-1's after your first experience with one. Explain yourself sir.:dontknow:

Never said I hated them all just that one. :p

[Daniel_Mc]

Hummm. What are you trying to say Daniel?:mrgreen:

Oh nothing... :rolleyes: LOL

Daniel

[tf95ZR1]

I know Kevin (Polo-1) built and sold a 402.
Somebody got a great deal. Ask him what
car it went into and about HP numbers.

[rhipsher]

I just got an email back from Tim Dyer at LPE and he said no! They never offered a 402cid. Only 368 385 and 415. So somebodies not telling the truth or miss spoke.

[cvette98pacecar]

I just got an email back from Tim Dyer at LPE and he said no! They never offered a 402cid. Only 368 385 and 415. So somebodies not telling the truth or miss spoke.

DRM built the "402"

[rhipsher]

DRM built the "402" Look at the ad. It clearly says Lingenfelter 402cid. Not DRM. So if anything it's a misrepresentation of who built the engine.

[Kevin]

could be lpe, drm or sgc.

[rhipsher]

It doesn't matter to me anyway since I'm not buying the car. But if I was planing on it I would have already contacted the seller and got who built it clarified. It's still an awesome car no matter who built.

[Locobob]

I just got an email back from Tim Dyer at LPE and he said no! They never offered a 402cid. Only 368 385 and 415. So somebodies not telling the truth or miss spoke.

Hmmm I'm staring at LPE's print catalog from 1998 and it lists a 400cid 575+hp package.

Also my LPE 368 does not have the plenum engraving, think a fair amount of the cars done in the early/mid 90's are like that.

[Kevin]

lpe's records may not be complete...lpe, like all companies, are capable of making mistakes

[USAFPILOT]

i smell bs

[mgg]

Hmmm I'm staring at LPE's print catalog from 1998 and it lists a 400cid 575+hp package.

Also my LPE 368 does not have the plenum engraving, think a fair amount of the cars done in the early/mid 90's are like that.

Locobob, I believe you are correct. A good friend of mine owns a Lingenfelter 402 car. He bought a Lt-5 in a crate and sent it off for the build. Lingenfelter had promised close to 600hp with this build. After the motor was built and installed in his car they Chassis dynoed the car on a dyno jet and were less than thrilled with the result versus the claims. The car was then sent back to Lingenfelter to deliver what what promised. I don't believe the car ever quite acheived the numbers they expected but still ran well. As a matter of fact I competed against this car at auto-x's and ran against it on the drag strip when it turned an 11.9. Pretty stout for 1992, or thereabouts. This engine did not have the plenum engraving as well. My friend still owns this car. He is not active nor has ever been active in the ZR-1 registry I believe. The car always sounded great and was a big influence in why I own a ZR-1 today. I will say that this car has been driven and used and always well maintained and to my knowledge has never given him an ounce of trouble. I is my understanding that the reason for the 402 was for reduced oil consumption that was an issue with the early 415 cars. I do not know that as fact, merely a conversation I had dwith someone regarding this particular car many years ago. Just thought you might find it interesting. Especially after Lingenfelter saying they did not offer this. Wierd.

[Kevin]

As I said. Lpe isn't perfect

[FU]

@ the year 2001 I bought a 402 kit from a guy up here in NY. He got the kit from LPE trust me. How do I know this ? LPE was printed on the rod's and the box the crank came in had the crank spec's with LPE as the buyer.
Go figure.

I'm not doubting anything here. Just stating my experience. But as said before if that is an LPE engine , it has full paper's with the engine number's etc. from LPE period.

This 402 car look's like a real nice car and a good deal.

[ZZZZZR1]

@ the year 2001 I bought a 402 kit from a guy up here in NY. He got the kit from LPE trust me. How do I know this ? LPE was printed on the rod's and the box the crank came in had the crank spec's with LPE as the buyer.
Go figure.

I'm not doubting anything here. Just stating my experience. But as said before if that is an LPE engine , it has full paper's with the engine number's etc. from LPE period.

This 402 car look's like a real nice car and a good deal.

I agree with frank. This car is the real deal....

Owner said he had direct dealings with John himself and said he advised the 402 vs 415 for what he wanted

623hp might be an aggressive hp number but you never know!

:cheers:

David

[Daniel_Mc]

A little off topic here but I remember at BG one year Rippie talking about the few custom cranks he did for the LT5 from the stock blanks. Not regrinding cranks but using the stock blanks before they were machined and using different specs. Anyone remember what CI LT5's these cranks were used in? Or where they are today?

Daniel

[FU]

Hi Daniel,

No suprise.Doug probably did that to get around the "LT5 TAX" that was-is being levied on stroker crank's.I have no idea where the crank's are.

JVD are you there ? Cause I aint squeelin !

When done correctly........there is absolutely no problem at all using a reground crank.

:cheers:

[rhipsher]

Well there is 1 day 23 hours left and the bid is at $18,300. So the bidding will either go up real fast on the last day or it will not meet the reserve.

[rhipsher]

Oh and if it makes 623hp with 15% lose through the drive shaft that would be 529rwhp that sounds about right. If the LPE 385's make 510-520rwhp then why wouldn't the bigger 402 do it? At least it makes mathematical sense.