View Full Version : Mild To Wild Exhaust Control
xlr8nflorida
02-10-2010, 10:27 PM
I know the mile to wild has to do with the exhaust tips however on the Z could you have:
Basically an exhaust cut out that would be controlled wirelessly?
A system where you are basically running open header?
Then you hit the button and everything slides back together for less of a rumble :mrgreen: Anybody done this?
What all would be involved and what would the approximate costs be if you were running
SW headers, no cats, and borla exhaust with center resonator?
Also in the photo posted, it looks like its more to make noise, as the cutout is back by the mufflers. Wouldn't it be more beneficial for it to open up/close right at the end of the header collectors?
Anybody got a mpeg of the sound?
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/mustangtuning_2093_768042845
http://customerpics.americanmuscle.com/viewsingle.php?id=9223&sku=20044
carter200
02-10-2010, 10:30 PM
Try A1990 as he has a set on the "ATOMIC Z".
xlr8nflorida
02-10-2010, 10:32 PM
Try A1990 as he has a set on the "ATOMIC Z".
Yes, I do recall he has it, I think his system is wired.
I hope he comes in here and posts some information. :handshak:
A1990
02-10-2010, 10:40 PM
Yes, I have QTP exhaust cut outs. Wired to a button in my console. One button push open, one button push closed. I am running SW headers, no Cats, B&B exhaust. You can buy the QTP's in whatever pipe size you have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apASacxxeMY&feature=player_embedded#
xlr8nflorida
02-10-2010, 10:51 PM
Yes, I have QTP exhaust cut outs. Wired to a button in my console. One button push open, one button push closed. I am running SW headers, no Cats, B&B exhaust. You can buy the QTP's in whatever pipe size you have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apASacxxeMY&feature=player_embedded#
That sounds great!
We are basically running the same system except for B&B vs. Borla.
You have a a 415 though no?
Wonder what the difference in sound would be. Actually its alot quieter then I thought it would be. The B&B is definitely deeper then the Borla.
What all is involved in the setup and costs associated with?
Check this out - too cool! http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/Controller/index.php
Thanks.
A1990
02-10-2010, 11:03 PM
I have a 396. 4.1 bores and offset ground crank. I am running Stage 1+ cams which you can here in the video.
They run $425 for the pair without the controller. You get a toggle switch which open and closes them. I bought the electric controller which allows you to open them at various degrees of open/closed. $120
Hindsight, the toggle for open or closed that is included is all you need.
The cutouts come with pipe that you can put right "in-line" with your existing system.
I couldn't decide on whether or not I wanted to add pipes to the back of the cutouts. In the video they are on there pointing down. I have since removed them.
Your link is exactly what I have.
xlr8nflorida
02-10-2010, 11:13 PM
I have a 396. 4.1 bores and offset ground crank. I am running Stage 1+ cams which you can here in the video.
They run $425 for the pair without the controller. You get a toggle switch which open and closes them. I bought the electric controller which allows you to open them at various degrees of open/closed. $120
Hindsight, the toggle for open or closed that is included is all you need.
The cutouts come with pipe that you can put right "in-line" with your existing system.
I couldn't decide on whether or not I wanted to add pipes to the back of the cutouts. In the video they are on there pointing down. I have since removed them.
Your link is exactly what I have.
So the controller is not really worth it?
Would it be safe to say $200 would cover the exhaust shop costs?
I was just thinking this might be the answer for me. I like the car quiet but at the same time I like it loud sometimes. I'm probably losing out on 10 HP with my borla system but the B&B is too loud for me 100% of the time.
This might be the happy medium? It must sound pretty intense when its open and you are under way?
A1990
02-10-2010, 11:19 PM
Intense is a great description!
I can't imagine it being more than $200 for labor. I guess I just open or close mine. I haven't taken the time to program it.
To give you an idea of how loud it is, you said that in the video my B&B exhaust sounded quiet.
When the cutouts are open at WOT the sound is extreme. When we were passed by Tracy's car in Bowling Green on the interstate in 2007, he had his cutouts open, we just looked at each other and said "What the hell was that?"
After that, I had to have them.
Paul Workman
02-11-2010, 06:35 AM
Pete and Bob G are using the vacuum activated flappers on their cars, and Pete says they work really well. Normal driving is quiet, but when at WOT the 3" B&B, cross pipe, bullet rez, howls!
Mebby they will check in w/ details, but I believe Pete said they installed the flapper on one each of the twin (B&B) muffler outlet pipes. The vacuum line to operate it is by way of hijacking the fuel return line, but Pete or Bob will have to tell ya where they tapped into the vacuum.
But, it is "wireless"! From what I understand, Pete said that since he installed the system he can now hear himself think. (I'm not sure Pete's being able to think is necessarily a good thing tho:mrgreen:)It only gets crazy when the throttle goes wide open.
Ya might search keyword "flapper" and see what you find.
P.
-=Jeff=-
02-11-2010, 09:01 AM
B&B is suppose to make a C4 exhaust with the 'Flappers'
http://www.bbexhaust.com/car/corvette/c4fusion/
A1990
02-11-2010, 02:20 PM
Pete and Bob G are using the vacuum activated flappers on their cars, and Pete says they work really well. Normal driving is quiet, but when at WOT the 3" B&B, cross pipe, bullet rez, howls!
Mebby they will check in w/ details, but I believe Pete said they installed the flapper on one each of the twin (B&B) muffler outlet pipes. The vacuum line to operate it is by way of hijacking the fuel return line, but Pete or Bob will have to tell ya where they tapped into the vacuum.
But, it is "wireless"! From what I understand, Pete said that since he installed the system he can now hear himself think. (I'm not sure Pete's being able to think is necessarily a good thing tho:mrgreen:)It only gets crazy when the throttle goes wide open.
Ya might search keyword "flapper" and see what you find.
P.
The cutouts are designed to do just the opposite of what you just said. They make the system louder, much, much louder. An ideal B&B system might be the flappers and the cutouts. Then you would truly have mild to wild.
A1990
02-11-2010, 02:25 PM
B&B is suppose to make a C4 exhaust with the 'Flappers'
http://www.bbexhaust.com/car/corvette/c4fusion/
Looks like maybe a system is in the works.
jonszr1
02-11-2010, 10:36 PM
talked with b and b today. they have a system for our zr1s in the works almost done. boy this could be the cats meow quiet until you floor it .
Jeffvette
02-11-2010, 10:40 PM
talked with b and b today. they have a system for our zr1s in the works almost done. boy this could be the cats meow quiet until you floor it .
Cost is expected at 1,800.
-=Jeff=-
02-12-2010, 11:47 PM
Cost is expected at 1,800.
:sign10: I have a hard time with the $1200 cost for exhaust
Z51JEFF
02-13-2010, 09:50 PM
I liked the idea of the Corsa until I saw the name stamped on the tips.Id pay the price for a nice system as long as the tips dont look stupid.Ill keep my eye on the BB system.
Jeffvette
02-13-2010, 10:11 PM
The older Corsa system does not have the name stamped on the tips.
xlr8nflorida
02-13-2010, 10:25 PM
Just hack the tips off.
There are tips that look exactly like the B&B tips, they are not cheap about $160 but they look great. Do a search and you will find them - a forum member put them on their car. I have been thinking about hacking up my Borla and doing the same.
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