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Old 01-13-2008   #1
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Default Slight lose of HP

Question for you guys. On my 94 I have noticed a HP loss at around 5800rpm to redline under full throttle. The CEL will come on as well for about 3 or 4 seconds and turn off.
It runs very strong up to that point and then feels "flat" until you hit the next gear. Only mods are a Chip from Marc and a cat back.

Any thoughts.
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Old 01-13-2008   #2
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Sounds like you are running out of vacuum for the secondary system.

Pull the codes and let us know what you got. Ground pin 4 and 12 on the ALDL port.
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Old 01-14-2008   #3
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Thanks for the reply, I will pull codes on Monday.
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Old 01-14-2008   #4
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Code 61. I think that is secondary valve or something close to that.

Just had the plenum removed for painting and I told them to change the acuators and anything that was not perfect while they were there. Looks like something went together wrong! This time its on there dime though!
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Old 01-15-2008   #5
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Default Re: Slight lose of HP

Code 61

Vacuum sensor voltage was between 0.76 and 4.89 volts when secondary port throttle valves were commanded closed, or the vacuum sensor voltage was below 1.7 volts when the secondary port throttle valves were commanded open.

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On all year models, if the SES comes on during hard acceleration, then most probably a code 61, Secondary Throttle system error has occurred. Test your vacuum pump (located in the right front headlight cavity) by turning on both ignition and power keys (do not start the engine) and disconnecting the secondary vacuum connection coming from the pump. The pump should turn on immediately and run continuously. Place a finger over the open line and the pump should suck down and quit running. Check all other vacuum connections. Particular to the '93 model year, we have seen a tremendous amount of problems with the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) systems. This may also be compounded by a faulty PROM (Programmed Read Only Memory) calibration. There is an updated replacement PROM available from your dealer.

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Old 01-15-2008   #6
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Code 61

Vacuum sensor voltage was between 0.76 and 4.89 volts when secondary port throttle valves were commanded closed, or the vacuum sensor voltage was below 1.7 volts when the secondary port throttle valves were commanded open.

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On all year models, if the SES comes on during hard acceleration, then most probably a code 61, Secondary Throttle system error has occurred. Test your vacuum pump (located in the right front headlight cavity) by turning on both ignition and power keys (do not start the engine) and disconnecting the secondary vacuum connection coming from the pump. The pump should turn on immediately and run continuously. Place a finger over the open line and the pump should suck down and quit running. Check all other vacuum connections. Particular to the '93 model year, we have seen a tremendous amount of problems with the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) systems. This may also be compounded by a faulty PROM (Programmed Read Only Memory) calibration. There is an updated replacement PROM available from your dealer.

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I will check this out. The thing that bothers me is everything was fine until getting the plenum repainted, they must have done something wrong.

The car has a prom from Marc, brand new.
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Old 01-15-2008   #7
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I will check this out. The thing that bothers me is everything was fine until getting the plenum repainted, they must have done something wrong.

The car has a prom from Marc, brand new.
It is very easy to have something go awry when working under the plenum. A vacuum hose loosens, actuator doesn't function, etc. Small things can make a significant performance difference. Good news is most of these things can be fixed. Bad news is you might have to do the plenum thing again. Keep the faith.
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Old 01-16-2008   #8
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It is very easy to have something go awry when working under the plenum. A vacuum hose loosens, actuator doesn't function, etc. Small things can make a significant performance difference. Good news is most of these things can be fixed. Bad news is you might have to do the plenum thing again. Keep the faith.
Yes the shop that did the work has already agreed to do it again and they will replace the actuators again just to be sure. I spend alot of money there, but they have always done decent work in the past.

I just hope they do indeed know what they are doing with all those hoses and such!
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What's the name of the shop, there might be some guys here that can verify their competance. And you could find some more folks to get together with...that's if you want to of course.
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Old 01-16-2008   #10
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What's the name of the shop, there might be some guys here that can verify their competance. And you could find some more folks to get together with...that's if you want to of course.
Race street rally is the name of the shop. Max the owner has been there more than twenty years. He seems to have a good rep from some others on the other forum.
He is willing to do the job again and i have seen others ZR-1's in the shop.
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