Bowling Green Meet and Greet Friday 5/17

[cvette98pacecar]

Everyone we are having a huge meet and greet on Friday May 17th at the Holiday Inn at 1021 Wilkinson Trace rd, the Hotel will have be serving the remainder of the keg from Wednesday night pizza party.

[Fully Vetted]

I don't understand. What does "the remainder of the keg" mean? Why would we leave if there is still beer left? In Texas, the party isn't over until we're out. I mean, running out of beer and Johnny Law are the only two reasons the party ends.

[dredgeguy]

Originally Posted by Fully Vetted

I don't understand. What does "the remainder of the keg" mean? Why would we leave if there is still beer left? In Texas, the party isn't over until we're out. I mean, running out of beer and Johnny Law are the only two reasons the party ends.

My kind of guys......can't wait to meet you all.

[FU]

I thought that meet and greet was on Wednesday night. And Friday was Pete's & Bob's , FBI night. Also why is no one promoting JVD's BBQ ? Why no racing ? Membership need's an answer.

Or are we allowed to ask a question ?

Why are all these change's taking place Robert ?

[cvette98pacecar]

Originally Posted by FU2

I thought that meet and greet was on Wednesday night. And Friday was Pete's & Bob's , FBI night. Also why is no one promoting JVD's BBQ ? Why no racing ? Membership need's an answer.

Or are we allowed to ask a question ?

Why are all these change's taking place Robert ?

Frank those are all very good questions. Which will be addressed in time. Like I told everyone when I ran for office I will not hide anything under the rug. As the members of the Zr-1 net registry I would implore all of you to ask any question that concerns you. If at anytime my brute honesty is a problem please give me a call 989 980 1304. All of your questions will be answered in time.

[Kevin]

do we have the proper insurance to be serving alcohol? I know for my wedding I needed to get a rider policy to be covered.

[A26B]

Originally Posted by Kevin

do we have the proper insurance to be serving alcohol? I know for my wedding I needed to get a rider policy to be covered.

It will probably be served by a hotel employee as it has been previously.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by A26B

It will probably be served by a hotel employee as it has been previously.

So were the drinks at my wedding, I still needed insurance

[Paul Workman]

These questions have been aired out in the Members Only section. So, in case some missed it, let me summarize briefly, speaking for myself only:

Club money to sponsor a vendor's event:

The Registry is not a banker or a venture capital org: i.e., funding is limited at that, and must be used judiciously to return the most bang for the buck - for ALL the members.

So...With regard to sponsoring the commercial vendors, e.g., JVD, HAT, SGC, etc.:

1) The Club simply does not have the $$ to sponsor all the vendor events, even if we wanted to. Do it for one, do it for all! So, that means picking and choosing! Not only is it not fair to the sponsors left out; it goes deeper than that. Example: How would you as a vendor feel if the Club used some of the money you donated to the Club to lavish upon a competing vendor, while excluding you?
2) Business is business... A vendor may choose to hold a customer appreciation event, e.g., a BBQ or whatever. It is advertising. The vendor hopes to benefit by it, but in any case the expense is a write-off as a business expense. And, here's a key: Individual customers make a choice to spend their money with that particular vendor, based on that vendor's merits as the customer sees them. But! It is their choice to do so, and their's alone! However, the Club should NOT make the choice for all the members to support a particular vendor...especially when some would specifically choose NOT to spend their money with that particular vendor (without making specific reference to any vendor in particular).

So, instead of using every member's funds to lavish upon any particular vendor, there are TWO BBQ events that are sponsored by the Club at BG; one on Wednesday nite at the Holiday Inn, and again on Friday night - at the same location. The members DO get to gather and party at a Club sponsored event. And, if they so choose, attend the JVD event as well.

So, specifially, this puts JVD on the same playing field as all the vendors, with regard to holding their own event: it's their opportunity to show customer appreciation, their advertising $$, they're the beneficiary of new business, it is their write-off, and individuals can choose to attend the JVD event and support JVD's business...or not. Is it the social gathering that is important to the voiciferous members on this issue, or ire over the Club not giving money to JVD specifally?

Drag racing:

Dayam... Although most of the Board of Directors (BOD) have not been directly involved with organizing and running a drag race event, I don't believe there is a single member of the BOD that wouldn't have liked to have had drag racing. But, here's what happened...

In the past, the Club has never sponsored drag racing. Never. It has always been done in the past by an individual member funding the money up front, and then distributing the cost to those that raced.

This year circumstances (called hurricane Sandy) precluded one of our favorite drag racing sponsors from being able to put up the front money. (I can't say who, but his initials are "FU"!)

So, fronting the money for drag racing was put in front of the BOD, with the understanding the decision to commit had to be made (almost) immediately in order to meet the "window" of opportunity (as other clubs wanted the track as well).

There were questions of cost, which ranged from about $150 to over $200 per racer depending on how many would commit to racing:

"Catch 22": Hard to get people to commit if they don't know how much $ to race, but don't know the cost/racer until there are commitments as to how many are going to race. (You can look back at the threads and see just how many committed to racing. The up front $$ was between $1500 and about $2500, depending on how many were racing (and other related factors).

And, (intiially) the BIGGIE was Club liability. Suddenly, it was discovered that the Club, and the BOD had no liablilty insurance. Does the phase "individual Directors could be held liable" clear it up somewhat?

As it happens, new information regarding liability and drag racing has come to light. Had the Club known certain facts at the time AND been able to take steps to allay the liability questions within that initial window for the decisions to be made, the outcome may have been entirely different. I for one am sorry the Club couldn't sponsor drag racing this year, but am confident we'll have our ducks in a row, and if the track is available then (always a big IF) I'm hoping drag racing will become part of the BG events, going forward. (I just hope the BOD's fumbling the ball on short notice hasn't PO'ed FU in to saying "FU!" to the club in the future when it comes to drag racing. Frank...Give us another shot to get our chit in one bag next time!)

By-the-way... As it stands, there IS going to be a "test and tune" drag racing event on Saturday night held at Beach Bend. last year it was something like $15 to sign up and race. So, for those that want to race, there's that opportunity - not like there is no racing to be had (weather and Beach Bend permitting, of course).

Hey, y'all... This is a car club formed to promote miles and smiles enjoying our hobby to the fullest - the ZR-1. That's it! And,because it is impractical to have all members vote on all club matters, a BOD was nominated and elected by y'all to attend to acheiving miles n smiles...for everybody! Far as it goes, paraphrasing (WC Fields - or?) "You can please some of the people some of the time, and ALL of the people some of the time, but you can't please ALL the people ALL of the time!"

Not all decisons are going to be what I/we would want; hopefully most of the really important ones ARE what I/we want as members. So, as one of the BOD, I think I speak for the rest of the 8 members when I say none of us pretends to have all the answers as to what would make the Club better. Ideas come from us all! Suggestions and constructive criticisms are always welcome - we're big boys...at least most of the time. And, the BG gathering is an opportunity to have fun and meet most of the BOD face to face: talk to them.

P.

[cvette98pacecar]

Originally Posted by Paul Workman

These questions have been aired out in the Members Only section. So, in case some missed it, let me summarize briefly, speaking for myself only:

Club money to sponsor a vendor's event:

The Registry is not a banker or a venture capital org: i.e., funding is limited at that, and must be used judiciously to return the most bang for the buck - for ALL the members.

So...With regard to sponsoring the commercial vendors, e.g., JVD, HAT, SGC, etc.:

1) The Club simply does not have the $$ to sponsor all the vendor events, even if we wanted to. Do it for one, do it for all! So, that means picking and choosing! Not only is it not fair to the sponsors left out; it goes deeper than that. Example: How would you as a vendor feel if the Club used some of the money you donated to the Club to lavish upon a competing vendor, while excluding you?
2) Business is business... A vendor may choose to hold a customer appreciation event, e.g., a BBQ or whatever. It is advertising. The vendor hopes to benefit by it, but in any case the expense is a write-off as a business expense. And, here's a key: Individual customers make a choice to spend their money with that particular vendor, based on that vendor's merits as the customer sees them. But! It is their choice to do so, and their's alone! However, the Club should NOT make the choice for all the members to support a particular vendor...especially when some would specifically choose NOT to spend their money with that particular vendor (without making specific reference to any vendor in particular).

So, instead of using every member's funds to lavish upon any particular vendor, there are TWO BBQ events that are sponsored by the Club at BG; one on Wednesday nite at the Holiday Inn, and again on Friday night - at the same location. The members DO get to gather and party at a Club sponsored event. And, if they so choose, attend the JVD event as well.

So, specifially, this puts JVD on the same playing field as all the vendors, with regard to holding their own event: it's their opportunity to show customer appreciation, their advertising $$, they're the beneficiary of new business, it is their write-off, and individuals can choose to attend the JVD event and support JVD's business...or not. Is it the social gathering that is important to the voiciferous members on this issue, or ire over the Club not giving money to JVD specifally?

Drag racing:

Dayam... Although most of the Board of Directors (BOD) have not been directly involved with organizing and running a drag race event, I don't believe there is a single member of the BOD that wouldn't have liked to have had drag racing. But, here's what happened...

In the past, the Club has never sponsored drag racing. Never. It has always been done in the past by an individual member funding the money up front, and then distributing the cost to those that raced.

This year circumstances (called hurricane Sandy) precluded one of our favorite drag racing sponsors from being able to put up the front money. (I can't say who, but his initials are "FU"!)

So, fronting the money for drag racing was put in front of the BOD, with the understanding the decision to commit had to be made (almost) immediately in order to meet the "window" of opportunity (as other clubs wanted the track as well).

There were questions of cost, which ranged from about $150 to over $200 per racer depending on how many would commit to racing:

"Catch 22": Hard to get people to commit if they don't know how much $ to race, but don't know the cost/racer until there are commitments as to how many are going to race. (You can look back at the threads and see just how many committed to racing. The up front $$ was between $1500 and about $2500, depending on how many were racing (and other related factors).

And, (intiially) the BIGGIE was Club liability. Suddenly, it was discovered that the Club, and the BOD had no liablilty insurance. Does the phase "individual Directors could be held liable" clear it up somewhat?

As it happens, new information regarding liability and drag racing has come to light. Had the Club known certain facts at the time AND been able to take steps to allay the liability questions within that initial window for the decisions to be made, the outcome may have been entirely different. I for one am sorry the Club couldn't sponsor drag racing this year, but am confident we'll have our ducks in a row, and if the track is available then (always a big IF) I'm hoping drag racing will become part of the BG events, going forward. (I just hope the BOD's fumbling the ball on short notice hasn't PO'ed FU in to saying "FU!" to the club in the future when it comes to drag racing. Frank...Give us another shot to get our chit in one bag next time!)

By-the-way... As it stands, there IS going to be a "test and tune" drag racing event on Saturday night held at Beach Bend. last year it was something like $15 to sign up and race. So, for those that want to race, there's that opportunity - not like there is no racing to be had (weather and Beach Bend permitting, of course).

Hey, y'all... This is a car club formed to promote miles and smiles enjoying our hobby to the fullest - the ZR-1. That's it! And,because it is impractical to have all members vote on all club matters, a BOD was nominated and elected by y'all to attend to acheiving miles n smiles...for everybody! Far as it goes, paraphrasing (WC Fields - or?) "You can please some of the people some of the time, and ALL of the people some of the time, but you can't please ALL the people ALL of the time!"

Not all decisons are going to be what I/we would want; hopefully most of the really important ones ARE what I/we want as members. So, as one of the BOD, I think I speak for the rest of the 8 members when I say none of us pretends to have all the answers as to what would make the Club better. Ideas come from us all! Suggestions and constructive criticisms are always welcome - we're big boys...at least most of the time. And, the BG gathering is an opportunity to have fun and meet most of the BOD face to face: talk to them.

P.

Paul, Well stated.

I am sure FU is good with the registry by now. Also, Renee did promise me she would let me know if FU went out and bought a shovel.