Windshield Question.... - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

ZONER 95 · 10-30-2011

I'm curious what the NCRS stand is on our ZR's windshields.......do they deduct for original with delamination?.....what about a replaced windshield?......which senario is deducted more....a bad delam or a new replacement?....

ZONER 95 · 10-30-2011

Another question.....if you have the dual roof option do you need to bring both roofs for judging?

vettn71 · 10-30-2011

An OEM replacement windshield like a (non-ZR) would get a 50% deduction, I believe on originality points as a service relacement. Then you've got date codes and the like to deal with. You would get all the condition points. An original windshield that has delamination would get all the originality points, but would get deduted for condition. Unless it was considered dangerous you would be better staying with the original. If you have a judging manual ity goes through the standard points deductions

Jim

Kevin · 10-30-2011

delamination will get you a deduction on condition. the replacement will get you a deduction on originality, date stamps, blah blah blah

yes you need to bring both roofs and everything else that came with the car

Kevin · 10-30-2011

you will also need to get rid of the radar detector, the thing in the cup holder and the key switch in the console

ZONER 95 · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by Kevin

you will also need to get rid of the radar detector, the thing in the cup holder and the key switch in the console

Yeah, I figured that....I'll pick up the NCRS lit on the subject....may consider having the car judged before replacing the original tires.

Kevin · 10-30-2011

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Originally Posted by ZONER 95

Yeah, I figured that....I'll pick up the NCRS lit on the subject....may consider having the car judged before replacing the original tires.

tom barr...barrhere i think his SN is here, is big into the ncrs stuff

jrd1990zr1 · 10-31-2011

For the 1990-91 MY, NCRS uses 26 points for originality and 24 points for condition. Assuming your MY has similar points (I can check for you if needed).

If you kept the original windshield I would give you the 26 originality points and depending on the amount of area of delamination would prorate the 24 points.

As far as a service replacement I am not sure there is a standard deduction for a proper service replacement windsield for a ZR1, so I would need to check.

In my opinion unless the delamination effects the entire windshield and you can not see throught it causing a dangerous condition I would have it judged as is.

My $0.02

BTW: Tom Barr is the NCRS national team leader for our cars and would be able to provide better clarification on this issue and others.

Kevin · 10-31-2011

it should be noted the standard c4 windshield is not the correct replacement

ZONER 95 · 10-31-2011

This car has a replacement windshield from original owner due to bad delamination.....it now has a PPG Sunshade Solargreen Duplate....Is that considered the correct replacement?...

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ZONER 95 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 197	Windshield Question.... I'm curious what the NCRS stand is on our ZR's windshields.......do they deduct for original with delamination?.....what about a replaced windshield?......which senario is deducted more....a bad delam or a new replacement?.... __________________ 95 ZR-1 #178 Black/Beige Dunn Heads

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ZONER 95 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 197	Re: Windshield Question.... Another question.....if you have the dual roof option do you need to bring both roofs for judging? __________________ 95 ZR-1 #178 Black/Beige Dunn Heads

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vettn71 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colleyville, TX Posts: 272	Re: Windshield Question.... An OEM replacement windshield like a (non-ZR) would get a 50% deduction, I believe on originality points as a service relacement. Then you've got date codes and the like to deal with. You would get all the condition points. An original windshield that has delamination would get all the originality points, but would get deduted for condition. Unless it was considered dangerous you would be better staying with the original. If you have a judging manual ity goes through the standard points deductions Jim

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Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,632	Re: Windshield Question.... delamination will get you a deduction on condition. the replacement will get you a deduction on originality, date stamps, blah blah blah yes you need to bring both roofs and everything else that came with the car __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"

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Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,632	Re: Windshield Question.... you will also need to get rid of the radar detector, the thing in the cup holder and the key switch in the console __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"

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jrd1990zr1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Delanson, NY Posts: 914	Re: Windshield Question.... For the 1990-91 MY, NCRS uses 26 points for originality and 24 points for condition. Assuming your MY has similar points (I can check for you if needed). If you kept the original windshield I would give you the 26 originality points and depending on the amount of area of delamination would prorate the 24 points. As far as a service replacement I am not sure there is a standard deduction for a proper service replacement windsield for a ZR1, so I would need to check. In my opinion unless the delamination effects the entire windshield and you can not see throught it causing a dangerous condition I would have it judged as is. My $0.02 BTW: Tom Barr is the NCRS national team leader for our cars and would be able to provide better clarification on this issue and others. __________________ 1968 convertible Lemans Blue, 1986 coupe Medium Blue NCRS Top Flight (sold), 1990 ZR1 #2529 Red NCRS Regional and National Top Flight (sold), 1990 ZR1 #2124 Charcoal Metallic NCRS Top Flight 2010 & 2018, 2003 Anniversary Red Convertible (sold)

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Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,632	Re: Windshield Question.... it should be noted the standard c4 windshield is not the correct replacement __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"

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ZONER 95 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 197	Re: Windshield Question.... This car has a replacement windshield from original owner due to bad delamination.....it now has a PPG Sunshade Solargreen Duplate....Is that considered the correct replacement?... __________________ 95 ZR-1 #178 Black/Beige Dunn Heads