ZR-1 Net Registry Forums  

Go Back   ZR-1 Net Registry Forums > Off Topic > Review/Evaluation

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-26-2021   #1
tpepmeie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fishers, IN
Posts: 814
Default LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Well, I know Dom started a thread on this already, but I am blown away by what GM has done with the LT6. To get 670 bhp from 5.5L is astonishing. Flat plane crank, as has long been known. But, mechanical valvetrain with what appear to be finger followers. Valve sizes and cam specs not disclosed. Bore is 104.25mm, or approx 4.100". Stroke must therefore be in the range of 80.5mm (3.170") for 5.5L.

For comparison, i've calculated the hp/liter, and the BMEP at the rated peak power and peak power engine speed for a handful of the highest hp N/A engines.

LT6....121.9 hp/L....12.98 bar BMEP at 8400 rpm
Ferrari 458 Speciale.... 132.8 hp/L....13.20 bar BMEP at 9000 rpm *** Highest specific output N/A engine***

458 Italia....125 hp/L....12.43 bar BMEP at 9000 rpm
Porsche GT3 RS....130 hp/L....14.12 bar BMEP at 8250 rpm
Merc SLS AMG....100 hp/L....12.11 bar BMEP at 7400 rpm
Ferrari 430 Scuderia....117 hp/L....12.29 bar BMEP at 8500 rpm

So, it appears they have succeeded in the highest absolute hp for a N/A V8. But not quite the level of specific output of the 458 speciale, which is probably the pinnacle of production N/A engines.

For fun, a 368 LT5 would have to produce:
685 bhp on the engine dyno @ 7500 rpm to equal the BMEP of the LT6
(assuming a very conservative 4.5% difference between the steady state SAE certified conditions with full accessories and exhaust compared to the normal aftermarket Superflow STD conditions and open headers)

for a 415 LT5:
775 bhp on the engine dyno @ 7500.

for a 427 LT5:
800 bhp on the engine dyno @ 7500.

I only wish they would release this as a crate engine!!!!
Todd
__________________
Todd

____________________________________
*** our email address has changed!
info@pepmeierengines.com

pepmeierengines.com

Friend us on Facebook too: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011443683384
Pepmeier Engine Development

Last edited by tpepmeie; 10-26-2021 at 04:46 PM.
tpepmeie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021   #2
lfalzarano
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Clayton, North Carolina
Posts: 1,133
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Patience Todd. Not sure it?s adaptable to a front engine layout?


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
Lou[COLOR="Red"][B][SIZE="4"][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]
lfalzarano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021   #3
tpepmeie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fishers, IN
Posts: 814
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Well, the bore spacing is the same.... maybe we could retrofit the heads and intake.... LOL
__________________
Todd

____________________________________
*** our email address has changed!
info@pepmeierengines.com

pepmeierengines.com

Friend us on Facebook too: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011443683384
Pepmeier Engine Development
tpepmeie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021   #4
tpepmeie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fishers, IN
Posts: 814
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Looks like the cams are still chain driven. The inlet port looks uncannily like the old INdy engines. Very straight and tall valve to port angle.

Saw some Bosch coils as well I think.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
Todd

____________________________________
*** our email address has changed!
info@pepmeierengines.com

pepmeierengines.com

Friend us on Facebook too: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011443683384
Pepmeier Engine Development
tpepmeie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2021   #5
XfireZ51
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chicagoland, IL
Posts: 9,704
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

I was blown away by the engineering. And it weighs 1kg more than the LT2. Great way to tell the OHV mavens to STFU. The sealing of pairs of cylinders to take advantage of one piston going up while one comes down effectively creating an vacuum for that cylinder pair is just genius.
There?s soooo much to unpack here.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Former Membership Chairman
Former ZR-1 Registry - BOD
1972 Corvette 4speed base Coupe SOLD long time ago
1984 Corvette Z-51/4+3 SOLD
1992 Corvette ZR-1 Aqua/Gray #474 SOLD
1992 Corvette ZR-1 Black Rose/Cognac #458
2014 Honda VFR Interceptor DX
XfireZ51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2021   #6
Erik
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: New Brunswick
Posts: 960
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

If it only came with a manual.....
__________________
1990 ZR-1 # 996

"All Corvettes are red. The rest are mistakes." - John Heinricy
Erik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2021   #7
HAWAIIZR-1
 
HAWAIIZR-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,583
Default LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik View Post
If it only came with a manual.....


Amazing technology indeed. So much for DIY.

I agree. I guess we are old school and no sports car should have an automatic, paddle shifters or not.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
Craig
"ZR-1 NO KA 'OI"
"ZR-1 ICHIBAN"
1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads
ZR-1 owner since September 2003
ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074
NCM Lifetime Member #2048

HAWAIIZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2021   #8
Erik
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: New Brunswick
Posts: 960
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Quote:
Originally Posted by HAWAIIZR-1 View Post
Amazing technology indeed. So much for DIY.

I agree. I guess we are old school and no sports car should have an automatic, paddle shifters or not.


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
I want to drive my car, not have the computer drive it for me. This means I want to have control of the major systems, those being steering, brakes, throttle and transmission. Yes, that means I want the luxury of driving my car worse then the computer does. And the joy of driving it really well.
__________________
1990 ZR-1 # 996

"All Corvettes are red. The rest are mistakes." - John Heinricy
Erik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2021   #9
1991 Corvette ZR-1
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Florida
Posts: 305
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik View Post
If it only came with a manual.....
You just know this will find its way into Chevrolet crate engines catalog. Although it will probably run 30K+ just for the engine. But 8600 rpm redline and 670 horses?oh yeah, I would if I could.
1991 Corvette ZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2021   #10
HAWAIIZR-1
 
HAWAIIZR-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,583
Default Re: LT6 / C8 Z06 engine

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik View Post
I want to drive my car, not have the computer drive it for me. This means I want to have control of the major systems, those being steering, brakes, throttle and transmission. Yes, that means I want the luxury of driving my car worse then the computer does. And the joy of driving it really well.


100% [emoji1360]🤙🏼


Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry
__________________
Craig
"ZR-1 NO KA 'OI"
"ZR-1 ICHIBAN"
1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads
ZR-1 owner since September 2003
ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074
NCM Lifetime Member #2048

HAWAIIZR-1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ZR-1 Net Registry 2020