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Norwegianmopar · 02-20-2021

Anyone got a short throw shifter from ZF Doc? Can they be bought outright or does it require sending in the original one?

A bit time and money consuming from Norway.

Any other brand short throw shifters to consider?

Experience with a shorter shifter, pros and cons?

Thanks guys.

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Karl · 02-20-2021

Here is the ultimate short throw shifter thread.

https://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread...&highlight=xxx

Double check with zf doc but I am pretty sure they can be purchased outright.

1991 Corvette ZR-1 · 02-20-2021

I have a shifter modified by ZF Doc. I went this route because I wanted to retain the lockout plunger feature for reverse. Even though reverse is all the way out there compared to 6th gear, I figured if anyone could find reverse instead of 6th, it would be me. Plus, I wanted to retain the factory look. Doc provides a few extra shims that are placed in the linkage assembly to help fine tune the feel of the shifter. If you specifically want your shifter to be shortened, he could do that. I sent mine as a core while he shortened another one for me.

Overall I am happy with the shifter feel. Doc can also help you source the small cradle the linkage assembly bolts into and the rest supporting bracket. As these parts have rubber bushings that wear out. Mine were pretty bad, which let the shifter wiggle a lot when shifting gears. With the new parts and the ZF Doc short shifter, the shifts are very positive and solid.

WARP TEN · 02-20-2021

I had Marc install Hursts in both the '93 and '95 and they were a vast improvement over stock. He said that Bill's shifter is just as good as the Hurst, maybe even a bit better but both are excellent. I really wanted to get rid of the lift ring in the '93 and the spring detent in the Hurst was certainly enough to keep me out of reverse. Never hit reverse on a shift at the drags. Along with 4.10 gears and Corsa exhausts it was one of the best "bang for the buck" modifications I made. --Bob

Norwegianmopar · 02-20-2021

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Originally Posted by WARP TEN

I had Marc install Hursts in both the '93 and '95 and they were a vast improvement over stock. He said that Bill's shifter is just as good as the Hurst, maybe even a bit better but both are excellent. I really wanted to get rid of the lift ring in the '93 and the spring detent in the Hurst was certainly enough to keep me out of reverse. Never hit reverse on a shift at the drags. Along with 4.10 gears and Corsa exhausts it was one of the best "bang for the buck" modifications I made. --Bob

Is this the type you got:
https://core-shifters.com/products/h...ant=9123739651

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JG95ZR1 · 02-20-2021

Only a Ripper feels like a true short shift the rest just feel shorter

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richarde · 02-20-2021

I purchased a 1990 ZR-1 two years ago and have since rebuilt the LT5 along with some other minor issues. This car has the Hurst Short throw shifter 3915084 fitted to it. It has no reverse protection. Although great at shifting through the gears, I am always aware that reverse would not be difficult to mistakenly select whilst travelling forward at a rate of speed!! My advice is to ensure that, whatever system you go for, make sure it has 'reverse protection'.

HAWAIIZR-1 · 02-20-2021

Since I had the Hurst in my 90 and now B&M in my 95, a few years ago I wanted to try a ZF Doc special, but have yet to install it. I like the B&M better than the Hurst. When I get back to Japan I have a lot of Z projects to tackle.

At that time Bill said he discontinued making the Mid-Year chrome T-handle lift-ring with chrome shift ball feature.

But he had a one-off crash-thru modified gear shift lever with a polished stainless steel neck segment just below the knob threads if I have a leather shift boot that shows more lever. I had a custom leather shift boot made for it so I need to get her done. From what I read here I will be happy with the ZFDoc shifter and will install his C4 beam plate at the same time.

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efnfast · 02-20-2021

I've got the Hurst short throw, short shaft, no reverse protection (who power shifts 6th?).
Love it.

conesare2seconds · 02-20-2021

I?ve been happy with the Hurst. On the stock shifter, your elbow ?breaks? a great deal when shifting into 2nd, 4th and 6th - it?s a long throw. Any of the ones you are asking about will be much more positive and quicker to shift. There is some increase in effort, but not so much you would dislike it.

02-20-2021	#1
Norwegianmopar Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Norway Posts: 345	ZF Doc short throw shifters Anyone got a short throw shifter from ZF Doc? Can they be bought outright or does it require sending in the original one? A bit time and money consuming from Norway. Any other brand short throw shifters to consider? Experience with a shorter shifter, pros and cons? Thanks guys. Sent from my SM-G955F using ZR-1 Net Registry mobile app __________________ Roy Martin 1994 ZR-1 #112 Admiral Blue/Black Dana 4:10 Aluminum flywheel Corsa exhaust Watson headers Haibeck chip 470 HP/399 RWHP 1991 ZR-1 #400 White/Red (SOLD) Dana 4:10 Powder coated engine Haibeck performance chip Borla exhaust

02-20-2021	#2
Karl Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 980	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters Here is the ultimate short throw shifter thread. https://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread...&highlight=xxx Double check with zf doc but I am pretty sure they can be purchased outright. __________________ 1993 ZR-1 #211 Yellow On Beige Beast #2 1992 ZR-1 #427 Black On Black Sold 1985 L98 Blue On Blue Sold

02-20-2021	#3
1991 Corvette ZR-1 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 305	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters I have a shifter modified by ZF Doc. I went this route because I wanted to retain the lockout plunger feature for reverse. Even though reverse is all the way out there compared to 6th gear, I figured if anyone could find reverse instead of 6th, it would be me. Plus, I wanted to retain the factory look. Doc provides a few extra shims that are placed in the linkage assembly to help fine tune the feel of the shifter. If you specifically want your shifter to be shortened, he could do that. I sent mine as a core while he shortened another one for me. Overall I am happy with the shifter feel. Doc can also help you source the small cradle the linkage assembly bolts into and the rest supporting bracket. As these parts have rubber bushings that wear out. Mine were pretty bad, which let the shifter wiggle a lot when shifting gears. With the new parts and the ZF Doc short shifter, the shifts are very positive and solid.

02-20-2021	#4
WARP TEN Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lake Bluff, IL Posts: 2,094	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters I had Marc install Hursts in both the '93 and '95 and they were a vast improvement over stock. He said that Bill's shifter is just as good as the Hurst, maybe even a bit better but both are excellent. I really wanted to get rid of the lift ring in the '93 and the spring detent in the Hurst was certainly enough to keep me out of reverse. Never hit reverse on a shift at the drags. Along with 4.10 gears and Corsa exhausts it was one of the best "bang for the buck" modifications I made. --Bob __________________ 2016 Long Beach Red Z06 #10281 "POPS Z" 1995 Polo Green #409 "WARP TEN"--Haibeck 350/510 package, 4.10s, Hurst, Stock Exhaust with QTP Cutouts --Sold but still running strong 1993 Quasar Blue #161 "HIL KING" --Sold but still running strong, now with more than 120,000 miles 1967 Marlboro Maroon/Saddle Corvette Coupe 300 hp/4-spd --Sold a long time ago ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #95 NCM Lifetime Member Favorite Quote--Attributed to Mickey Thompson: "Too Much Horsepower is Almost Enough"

02-20-2021	#6
JG95ZR1 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 166	ZF Doc short throw shifters Only a Ripper feels like a true short shift the rest just feel shorter Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry IMG_3509.jpg

02-20-2021	#7
richarde Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 68	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters I purchased a 1990 ZR-1 two years ago and have since rebuilt the LT5 along with some other minor issues. This car has the Hurst Short throw shifter 3915084 fitted to it. It has no reverse protection. Although great at shifting through the gears, I am always aware that reverse would not be difficult to mistakenly select whilst travelling forward at a rate of speed!! My advice is to ensure that, whatever system you go for, make sure it has 'reverse protection'. __________________ Richard 1990, numbers 1821 and 2391 1821 - owned since Nov 2002, charcoal / Gray, Stainless headers, B&B system, 4.10's 2391 - owned since Jan 2019, Black / Black, have completed restoration. Jeal headers, Corsa system, 4.10's, Aluminum flywheel with Carolina clutch.

02-20-2021	#8
HAWAIIZR-1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 3,581	ZF Doc short throw shifters Since I had the Hurst in my 90 and now B&M in my 95, a few years ago I wanted to try a ZF Doc special, but have yet to install it. I like the B&M better than the Hurst. When I get back to Japan I have a lot of Z projects to tackle. At that time Bill said he discontinued making the Mid-Year chrome T-handle lift-ring with chrome shift ball feature. But he had a one-off crash-thru modified gear shift lever with a polished stainless steel neck segment just below the knob threads if I have a leather shift boot that shows more lever. I had a custom leather shift boot made for it so I need to get her done. From what I read here I will be happy with the ZFDoc shifter and will install his C4 beam plate at the same time. Sent from my iPhone using ZR-1 Net Registry __________________ Craig "ZR-1 NO KA 'OI" "ZR-1 ICHIBAN" 1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads ZR-1 owner since September 2003 ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074 NCM Lifetime Member #2048 Last edited by HAWAIIZR-1; 02-21-2021 at 01:49 PM.

02-20-2021	#9
efnfast Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Dunbarton NH Posts: 7,480	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters I've got the Hurst short throw, short shaft, no reverse protection (who power shifts 6th?). Love it.

02-20-2021	#10
conesare2seconds Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Greater St. Louis Posts: 490	Re: ZF Doc short throw shifters I?ve been happy with the Hurst. On the stock shifter, your elbow ?breaks? a great deal when shifting into 2nd, 4th and 6th - it?s a long throw. Any of the ones you are asking about will be much more positive and quicker to shift. There is some increase in effort, but not so much you would dislike it.