Couple of White ZRs sold at R&S - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

XfireZ51 · 03-03-2014

http://www.russoandsteele.com/past-c...ette-ZR1/66882

csavaglio · 03-03-2014

Do you need an account to see the final price? I looked at 1991 0959 and it was rough, to say the least. Low mileage but highly neglected. Paint was very scuffed like it had a cover on outside in the sandy wind, leather was cracked and chipped, glove box door warped, secondaries non functional, rough running engine, tires worn out, sport seats didn't work right, Bose system squealing and with static, and it gave the impression that it had sat outside its whole life in Phoenix. There was a list of other things as well. I passed on the car at 8k plus my extremely nice, low mileage LT4 Collector Edition as trade. I'm curious what it went for. He's had it up on eBay, CL, etc for prices that ranged from $18k to $23.5k and seemed to be using the "raise the price until it sells" technique. Hopefully they whoever got it, if it sold, tested everything and didn't get ripped off. I was told the car "looked, ran, and drove like new."

Needless to say, after driving 400 miles coming off a night shift to look at the car, I was pretty unhappy with the seller.
Chris

csavaglio · 03-04-2014

Looks like it sold for $21k. Looking at the pics, it looks like they addressed the cleanliness issues...when I looked at it, the engine bay was filthy and the white paint looked beige.

When I tallied up all that was wrong, there was between $3k and $7k worth of repair work depending on what a things were actually wrong...for example, the secondaries not working could be as simple as a leaking vacuum line or as costly as as all the under plenum stuff. I hope the buyer knows what he's in for on that car or that they fixed most of the issues. I know they didn't replace the seats. The same dime sized chip is there in the bolster.

Franke · 03-04-2014

Chris, if it sold for 21K with all that then my price of 18K was way too low.

csavaglio · 03-04-2014

It makes me feel way, way better about what I paid for my steel blue car. Higher mileage, but much, much nicer. That car had 17k miles and mine had 48k, but considering the dealer I got mine from was willing to give 14k for my trade and the Scottsdale one was only willing to give me 10k, I essentially only paid pretty much the same.

I don't know what RS charges the seller for fees, but I suspect he probably didn't take a whole lot more than $18k.

That car was advertised on CL for a while at $17,900. You have to figure something's wrong with a ZR-1 if one with 17k miles sits around at under $18k.

KILLSHOTS · 03-04-2014

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Originally Posted by csavaglio

Do you need an account to see the final price? I looked at 1991 0959 and it was rough, to say the least. Low mileage but highly neglected. Paint was very scuffed like it had a cover on outside in the sandy wind, leather was cracked and chipped, glove box door warped, secondaries non functional, rough running engine, tires worn out, sport seats didn't work right, Bose system squealing and with static, and it gave the impression that it had sat outside its whole life in Phoenix. There was a list of other things as well. I passed on the car at 8k plus my extremely nice, low mileage LT4 Collector Edition as trade. I'm curious what it went for. He's had it up on eBay, CL, etc for prices that ranged from $18k to $23.5k and seemed to be using the "raise the price until it sells" technique. Hopefully they whoever got it, if it sold, tested everything and didn't get ripped off. I was told the car "looked, ran, and drove like new."

Needless to say, after driving 400 miles coming off a night shift to look at the car, I was pretty unhappy with the seller.
Chris

Was this car white on gray, by any chance? Van Chevy in Scottsdale had a 1991 Z several months ago with this sort of mileage that they were selling for about 18K. Took everything I had not to go buy it. Looked great in the pics but I figured there had to be something wrong for that price. Gotta be the same car...

csavaglio · 03-05-2014

Yes, that's the one. I drove 400 miles to buy it, looked it over and test drove it, spent a bit of time getting talked down to by the dealer when I disagreed about the condition, then turned around and drove home.

KILLSHOTS · 03-05-2014

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Originally Posted by csavaglio

Yes, that's the one. I drove 400 miles to buy it, looked it over and test drove it, spent a bit of time getting talked down to by the dealer when I disagreed about the condition, then turned around and drove home.

Sorry you had to go through that. Van Tuyl dealerships don't have a wonderful reputation; this treatment could be an isolated incident, or it could be part of the reason. Like I said, I figured it had to be a badly neglected Z for that price.

Looks like everything worked out, though: you got a Steel Blue Z! SCORE!!

Cheers!
Chris

csavaglio · 03-05-2014

Yeah, I'm much happier with the SB car. It looks like more money on paper, but since they gave me almost 50% more in trade value off the CE, it evened it out quite a bit.

I've heard the same thing about Van Chevrolet. I think they figured I'd driven that far, I'd buy the car regardless. They were very proud of their car, despite having obvious issues that even a non-vette guy would see right off and bad mouthed my (nearly perfect) LT4 CE.

They had the nerve to call me a month or two later saying they had a car come in I might be interested in.....I couldn't believe it. I didn't exactly make my feelings towards them a secret when I left.

At least I've got friends and family in Phoenix, so, even though the trip was quick....I was shooting between 2 mid shifts with just one night off in between), it wasn't a total waste.

Chris

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03-03-2014	#2
csavaglio Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 160	Re: Couple of White ZRs sold at R&S Do you need an account to see the final price? I looked at 1991 0959 and it was rough, to say the least. Low mileage but highly neglected. Paint was very scuffed like it had a cover on outside in the sandy wind, leather was cracked and chipped, glove box door warped, secondaries non functional, rough running engine, tires worn out, sport seats didn't work right, Bose system squealing and with static, and it gave the impression that it had sat outside its whole life in Phoenix. There was a list of other things as well. I passed on the car at 8k plus my extremely nice, low mileage LT4 Collector Edition as trade. I'm curious what it went for. He's had it up on eBay, CL, etc for prices that ranged from $18k to $23.5k and seemed to be using the "raise the price until it sells" technique. Hopefully they whoever got it, if it sold, tested everything and didn't get ripped off. I was told the car "looked, ran, and drove like new." Needless to say, after driving 400 miles coming off a night shift to look at the car, I was pretty unhappy with the seller. Chris

03-04-2014	#3
csavaglio Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 160	Re: Couple of White ZRs sold at R&S Looks like it sold for $21k. Looking at the pics, it looks like they addressed the cleanliness issues...when I looked at it, the engine bay was filthy and the white paint looked beige. When I tallied up all that was wrong, there was between $3k and $7k worth of repair work depending on what a things were actually wrong...for example, the secondaries not working could be as simple as a leaking vacuum line or as costly as as all the under plenum stuff. I hope the buyer knows what he's in for on that car or that they fixed most of the issues. I know they didn't replace the seats. The same dime sized chip is there in the bolster.

03-04-2014	#4
Franke Join Date: May 2013 Location: Beaver, PA Posts: 516	Re: Couple of White ZRs sold at R&S Chris, if it sold for 21K with all that then my price of 18K was way too low.

03-04-2014	#5
csavaglio Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 160	Re: Couple of White ZRs sold at R&S It makes me feel way, way better about what I paid for my steel blue car. Higher mileage, but much, much nicer. That car had 17k miles and mine had 48k, but considering the dealer I got mine from was willing to give 14k for my trade and the Scottsdale one was only willing to give me 10k, I essentially only paid pretty much the same. I don't know what RS charges the seller for fees, but I suspect he probably didn't take a whole lot more than $18k. That car was advertised on CL for a while at $17,900. You have to figure something's wrong with a ZR-1 if one with 17k miles sits around at under $18k.

03-05-2014	#7
csavaglio Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 160	Re: Couple of White ZRs sold at R&S Yes, that's the one. I drove 400 miles to buy it, looked it over and test drove it, spent a bit of time getting talked down to by the dealer when I disagreed about the condition, then turned around and drove home.