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Old 07-22-2023   #1
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Default An Exterior Trim Question

Hi all,
I have a question I was unable to find an answer to (yeah, I tried the search funcion).

The '90 I picked up at the end of February (#0158) had/has what I thought was an incorrect rear (CORVETTE word) bumper emblem. The emblem is for a black car and is too small.

At some point, I'd read somewhere that the currently available replacements were NOT for a ZR-1 as they had larger (taller and wider) lettering.

After an exhaustive search, I was able to find a very expensive NOS white car emblem on eBay. A friend just finished correctly painting the white trim (to red), sprucing up the black and clearing the entire emblem

However, while waiting for the replacement to arrive and be refurbished, I realized that several pictures on the Registry showed the smaller emblem on supposed/assumed stock cars. Spurred by this realization, I pulled out old pics of my first '90 and low and behold, it had the smaller emblem on it before I changed it to a gold one (I know, but it seemed distinctive back in the early 90s).

So, what is "correct?" The smaller version that will also fit a standard vette or the larger I have to replace my incorrect black one. Help is greatly appreciated!!
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Old 07-22-2023   #2
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Default Re: An Exterior Trim Question

The 1990 ZR-1 was the ONLY ZR-1 in the entire model run to have the smaller "CORVETTE" script logo.

In 1991-1995 went to the larger script. The one you pulled off was the correct size.
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Old 07-22-2023   #3
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Well rats (very expensive rats)!!! But thank you, sir, for your answer.

Early in my search, I looked at the standard emblems but almost all of the vendors included the caveat that the item wasn't intended for the ZR-1. I don't recall a single one that had a reference by year.

Having already spent the dough, I'm inclined to use the larger, refurbished one. Don't have any Bloomington Gold aspirations and I doubt it'll be noticed at the local cars and coffee.

Thanks again for the prompt reply.
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Old 07-23-2023   #4
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Well rats (very expensive rats)!!! But thank you, sir, for your answer.

Early in my search, I looked at the standard emblems but almost all of the vendors included the caveat that the item wasn't intended for the ZR-1. I don't recall a single one that had a reference by year.

Having already spent the dough, I'm inclined to use the larger, refurbished one. Don't have any Bloomington Gold aspirations and I doubt it'll be noticed at the local cars and coffee.

Thanks again for the prompt reply.

"Most vendors" don't know. I don't say that flippantly be careful when you buy parts for your cars it's important to "verify" parts will fit on your ZR-1. Don't hesitate to ask questions here. Most of us here have been there and done that.

Happy to help. GC
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90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat

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Old 07-23-2023   #5
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Here is small graphic I made a while back.

On the bright side, the 84-90 emblems are cheaper and much easier to find.
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Old 07-24-2023   #6
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Well rats (very expensive rats)!!! But thank you, sir, for your answer.

Early in my search, I looked at the standard emblems but almost all of the vendors included the caveat that the item wasn't intended for the ZR-1. I don't recall a single one that had a reference by year.

Having already spent the dough, I'm inclined to use the larger, refurbished one. Don't have any Bloomington Gold aspirations and I doubt it'll be noticed at the local cars and coffee.

Thanks again for the prompt reply.
Did you pay $500 for that emblem? In all the years I've had my Z that is the only part I could never find until recently and wouldn't even come close to paying $500 for one.
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Old 07-25-2023   #7
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I switched to the larger on my 1990. my car is black and had a Red ZR-1 badge, I swapped the CORVETTE for the red and now have the later silver (both ZR-1 and CORVETTE) on the rear of the car
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Here is small graphic I made a while back.

Thanks, that's helpful
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Old 08-07-2023   #9
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Did you pay $500 for that emblem? In all the years I've had my Z that is the only part I could never find until recently and wouldn't even come close to paying $500 for one.
No sir. I think that's where the pricing started (if you're talking the one on *B*y). And I agree I wouldn't have paid that initial price.

However, I kept my eye on that thing until the asking price dropped below $200. With standard emblems going for $50+, I offered and got it for $100. I figured hen's teeth might command a slight "premium."

I had a friend repaint the white border to red, then polished the black and cleared the whole thing. Just got it installed yesterday (Sunday) and I'm very pleased.

Interesting note: comparing the two emblems, not only is the 91-95 larger but the "font" of the letters is different. I was waivering as to what to do, but comparing the "R" in Corvette with the "R" in the ZR-1 emblem, I noticed the fonts matched....so that was the decider. I now have the larger emblem on my '90.
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Old 08-12-2023   #10
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No sir. I think that's where the pricing started (if you're talking the one on *B*y). And I agree I wouldn't have paid that initial price.

However, I kept my eye on that thing until the asking price dropped below $200. With standard emblems going for $50+, I offered and got it for $100. I figured hen's teeth might command a slight "premium."
Did you get one of the 91-95 emblems for $100,if so I wish I would have seen that. If I needed one and couldn't find it I'd have on 3D printed. Here's something a little mind boggling,I have one of the few 94 Copper Metallic CORVETTE emblems that were made,but can't find a white one. Another odd thing to think about. The CORVETTE font on the cam covers is the 90 design,why didn't GM just change the later font design and start using it in 89,with the anticipation the Z would be released in 89 so the cam covers would match the rear emblem? At some point someone within GM had to catch that and realize somebody dropped the ball,or maybe the bean counters didn't want to spend the money for the minor change.
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