Blue Smoke

[phrogs]

Originally Posted by todesengel

hmm, the price from gm parts direct for three coils was;
SUB TOTAL: $121.53
SHIPPING: $26.74
TAX: $0.00
TOTAL WITH TAXES: $ 148.27

I refuse to deal with GM parts Direct aside from shiping cost that are outragous there are better places to buy parts.

I got 4 coils not 3.

GM parts direct price for 4 coils with shipping price $162.04 shipping $35.6 total cost = $197.69

[FULLPWR]

IT'S ALIVE !!!!!!!!

OMG.............So thats what the secondaries do.....

-installed the coils
-had issues with the left actuator binding no matter what position, so i modified the arm with a few slight bends, realigned the mounting plate some, pulled in and let go full stroke with hand vac.
-put blk zip ties on everything i thought might move
-super glued the vac line to rubber grummet going to t/b, then stuck one of those red spraycan straws down it make sure i didnt clog it up with glue.
-installed new MAP sensor
-closed it up
-added coolant

cranked it up ..immediate SES light, white black smoke, very little blue.
idling with a bad miss, so i waited to let it warm up
idling about 1100.
ck'd for leaks coolant, vac, none !

the warmer she got the better the idle.
motor finally stop shaking bad, but still a little.
oil got to temp so i took it for a ride

ran through all the gears, very hesitant in second, and boggy in third.

decided it was time to see what it gonna do
so at about 20 i punched it, bogged down immediately, no ses light though,
then choked and spit, 6000 grand comes to dam fast.
slowed back down to 20 or so, punched it again, tearing up of payment man, popped second still chewing pavement about 6000 i think trying to watch road, c-beams i now know this difference whips me back in line, popped third front end up, popped fourth, couldnt see road my smile was to dam big .
pulled into station, no more smoke not even blue chk under hood all cool.
then did it again runs 1000 times better than ever.

still think it needs run some more to clear it out,
idle back at home was just under 1000rpms no ses light
every once in a while it trembles a lil but pulls strong.
think it needs some tuning.

going to drive it to work tomorrow and see what it does.

BIG thanks to everybody

[A26B]

I know the feeling! When i first bought the Zee, I had an elusive bad coil that drove me nuts. Initially I was really disappointed in the performance. After the coil was replace, whole different animal.

I think it will continue to improve, getting some of the carbon blown out & ECM learning.

[FULLPWR]

Originally Posted by A26B

I know the feeling! When i first bought the Zee, I had an elusive bad coil that drove me nuts. Initially I was really disappointed in the performance. After the coil was replace, whole different animal.

I think it will continue to improve, getting some of the carbon blown out & ECM learning.

Hey, "GASKET KING"
It ran great this morning Jerry, those gaskets you sent me "EXCELLENT PERFECT FIT" Bad AZZZZ

I talked to a guy about cutting off my empty Cats, I know this may be a quick fix but i need a sticker badddd, my sticker now is 07. houston cops no likey.

he said he can cut off the driver side cat, make a transition collar and weld up a hi-flow(+150in) cat and plumb into pipes before resonator.
passasenger side he can only place a cat behind the original empty one.
due to clearance issues.

I think Im going to do it, might not be or look right but it will definitely get me a sticker, so i have more time to work on getting a real exhaust system.

please, any comments or critiques VERY welcome????

thanks,
Luis

[tomtom72]

I'm happy for you Luis!

Okay, get the emissions sticker thing taken care of because John Law will make your life miserable.

I'm going to go back to the FSM to look for a reason that the car still has some "miss" issues. I don't know that I can promise to find the answer, but I promise that I will try.
I just don't understand why it still has a miss?


Tom

[todesengel]

Originally Posted by phrogs

I refuse to deal with GM parts Direct aside from shiping cost that are outragous there are better places to buy parts.

I got 4 coils not 3.

GM parts direct price for 4 coils with shipping price $162.04 shipping $35.6 total cost = $197.69

You know you are 100% correct, I am an idiot sometimes. I suppose I still have the 6 cyl mentality going on in my head since I ordered three coils, not four. Not sure where my head was. I will agree their shipping is stupid expensive. Thanks for the correction.

BTW, the hosesunder the plenum, what are you guys doing for these? Is there a simple replacement, or are you using an aftermarket silicone, etc?

Thanks

[todesengel]

Congrats to you! It is always nice to enjoy your accomplishment. I bet the next time you remove the plenum it will be 1/4 the job it was this time.

Ill be doing this soon, as well as installing my headers. Thanks for the pictures and the motivation!

Originally Posted by FULLPWR

IT'S ALIVE !!!!!!!!

OMG.............So thats what the secondaries do.....

-installed the coils
-had issues with the left actuator binding no matter what position, so i modified the arm with a few slight bends, realigned the mounting plate some, pulled in and let go full stroke with hand vac.
-put blk zip ties on everything i thought might move
-super glued the vac line to rubber grummet going to t/b, then stuck one of those red spraycan straws down it make sure i didnt clog it up with glue.
-installed new MAP sensor
-closed it up
-added coolant

cranked it up ..immediate SES light, white black smoke, very little blue.
idling with a bad miss, so i waited to let it warm up
idling about 1100.
ck'd for leaks coolant, vac, none !

the warmer she got the better the idle.
motor finally stop shaking bad, but still a little.
oil got to temp so i took it for a ride

ran through all the gears, very hesitant in second, and boggy in third.

decided it was time to see what it gonna do
so at about 20 i punched it, bogged down immediately, no ses light though,
then choked and spit, 6000 grand comes to dam fast.
slowed back down to 20 or so, punched it again, tearing up of payment man, popped second still chewing pavement about 6000 i think trying to watch road, c-beams i now know this difference whips me back in line, popped third front end up, popped fourth, couldnt see road my smile was to dam big .
pulled into station, no more smoke not even blue chk under hood all cool.
then did it again runs 1000 times better than ever.

still think it needs run some more to clear it out,
idle back at home was just under 1000rpms no ses light
every once in a while it trembles a lil but pulls strong.
think it needs some tuning.

going to drive it to work tomorrow and see what it does.

BIG thanks to everybody

[phrogs]

Don't worry about it I figured you might have had 3 on the brain for some reason all those years with a 6 cyl will do that to you haha

sent you a PM on the hose I know there is a cheap solution to the breather hoses but need to find out what ones you are refering to.

jp

Originally Posted by todesengel

You know you are 100% correct, I am an idiot sometimes. I suppose I still have the 6 cyl mentality going on in my head since I ordered three coils, not four. Not sure where my head was. I will agree their shipping is stupid expensive. Thanks for the correction.

BTW, the hosesunder the plenum, what are you guys doing for these? Is there a simple replacement, or are you using an aftermarket silicone, etc?

Thanks

[GOLDCYLON]

congrats !

[FULLPWR]

thanks

today it ran really well, no smoking at all !!!

had the new cats piped in. PASSED emmisions test,
after new cats ran exactly the same but i got a sticker

still have that tremble at idle, cant tell if its there when running thru the gears though, but it feels like when timing is slightly retarded or i guess like its slightly congested somewhat.

i have never changed the oxygen sensors and with running it with those empty cats wondering if that may be causing that tremble. basically they are the only things left i havnt changed out except for that sensor under the ecm and the ecm itself.