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Old 12-12-2013   #71
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Default Re: 1990 Throttle hesistation

Are you pointing to a page in the infamous FSM that WVZR-1 always refers to?

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Old 12-12-2013   #72
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Are you pointing to a page in the infamous FSM that WVZR-1 always refers to?

Yer' dang tootin' I am...

The answer's right there, and I ain't gettin' it.
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Old 12-12-2013   #73
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Sounds like a lean surge to me. What % TPS was that? Did this start after the secondary elimination?
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Sounds like a lean surge to me. What % TPS was that? Did this start after the secondary elimination?
No Dom; it's the same hesitation.

I'm thinking perhaps lean surge also - only FP test I didn't do was FPR vacuum response.

FSM says apply 10" Hg. vac lift, and observe...
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Old 12-12-2013   #75
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Ever change the fuel filter under passenger side firewall?
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Old 12-12-2013   #76
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Ever change the fuel filter under passenger side firewall?
Did it on day 2 owning the car.
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Old 12-13-2013   #77
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Sounds like a lean surge to me. What % TPS was that? Did this start after the secondary elimination?
TO % Dom probably is not even registering above 0%, as the hesitation starts, but I'll try to get a read on it...

I'm gonna' try to set up the throttle stop screw accessible, to incrementally increase throttle.

So how about INJ resistance test?

Can they be tested at the ECM terminals?

I suppose if they ohm through near 16 Ohms, all are good, and it they ohm UNDER spec, it could still be the leads TO the INJ's...

Cold AND warmed up test?
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Old 12-13-2013   #78
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Schrade,
Not sure this is your problem. All 16 of my injectors measured about 12-13 ohms cold. None were at 16 ohms. When hot, 4 of them measured anywhere from 6-10 ohms. They were the bad ones. 1 Primary and 3 secondary. The symptoms was a good idling engine until warmed up. Then a miss as the 1 primary injector started to fail. Since I had 3 bad injectors on the secondary side there was no effect until secondary operation. There was no regular hesitation as you are describing. The primaries can be tested at the ECM but the secondary's are not measured at the ECM. Marc Haibeck published a procedure on how its done which I followed.

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Old 12-14-2013   #79
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Anyone know where the pinout ID is in FSM for ECM?
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Old 12-14-2013   #80
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Anyone know where the pinout ID is in FSM for ECM?
Marc has identified the ECM Pin outs for fuel injector resistance here....

Measuring Fuel Injector Resistance with the Plenum in Place

Marc says:
1. The primary fuel injectors have a common connection at the Inj 1 fuse. Resistance measurements can be made between the fuse connector and the individual connections on ECM connector A.

2. The secondary fuel injector resistance is measured between the ECM A connector and the secondary relay connectors. Remove the secondary relay connectors for easy access to the pins.

As Franke suggests.....
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The primaries can be tested at the ECM but the secondary's are not measured at the ECM. Marc Haibeck published a procedure on how its done which I followed.

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