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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Features & Controls
4 Power Door Locks With power door locks, ,you can lock or unlock both doors-.of your vehicle from the driver or-passenger door lock switch. Slide the power door lock switch reaward to lock the doors. Slide the switch €ornard to unlock the doors. Leaving Your Vehicle If you are leaving,the vehicle, open your door and set the lucks from inside. Then get out and close the door. Your vehicle has a thee detefrent system. See- the index uader Unzversal Theft Deterrent. I4 Passive KeyEess Entry System Your Passive Keyless Entry system operates on a radio frequency subjecto Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Rules. This device complies with Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) This device may not cause- harmful interfejrence, and (2) This device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation. Should interference to this system occur, try this: Check to:see if the passive feature is enabled. Check the distance. You may be too far lrom your vehicle. This product has a maximum range. Check the location. Other vehicles or objects-may be blocking the signal. Check to determine if battery replacement is. necessary. See the instructioas .on battery replacement later in this section. See your Chevrolet dealer 6r.a qualified technician for service. Changes or modifications td this system by other than an authorized service facility could void authorization to use this .equipment. .F i i+ i, .e i 1 r I ., Passive Keyless .Entry Description The Passive Keyless-Entry system, or PKE, on your Corvette is a new approach2o remote keyless entry. Unlike other systems, PKE requires no specific .action from the operator ,to unlock or lock the dams. When the passive kature is er;abled, simply approach the vehide with the .PKE trinsmitter-the system automatically disarms your vehicle's theft deterrent system and unlocks either the driver's door or both doors (depending on which unlock mode it is in). Move back aut -of range, and P-KE locks all the doas and arms the theft deterrent system. The Passive Keyless Entry system also has other useful features. The passenger - door can be unlocked by pressing. the DOOR button on the transmitter. On the. coupe, the hatch can be openqd ley pressing the HATCH button on the transmitter. In addition to these features, there is a special function that prevents thekeys from being locked in the vehicle while they are in the ignition. Your Corvette comes equipped from the facbry with one transmitter. Additional transmitters, if desired, .may be purchased though your dealer. Each transmitter is co-ded for. secu-rity, and must be ,programmed to yow vehicle before it is used. See Programming Transmitters laterin this section, Transmitter Range The Passive Keyless Entry system sen-ses the transmitter when it is within a certain-range of the vehicle. When the transmitter is' within this range, the doar(s) will unIock auto-matieally (if the passive feature is enabled), the theft deterrent system will be disarmed, -and the courtesy lights wilI be turned on (if it is dark enough outside). Transmitter ranges., as shorn in the coupe and convertibie illustrations, are as follows: Range A: .5-7 feet (.11h-2 m) Range B: 3-5 feet. (1-1% rn) Features & Controls .. . .. .. _I . . .- . .. . .. The signal of the transmitter is picked up by two antennas. On the coupe, one antenna is located in the driver's door and one is located in the rear of the luggage-area. These antennas do not require any routine maintenance I Transmitter Range (Convertible) Qn the convertible, one antenna is located in the driver's door and one- is located in the passenger's -door. These antennas do not require any routine maintenance. F i"" V' r" Transmitter Range Suggestions: The range of the Passive Keyless EMry system is very dependent on bow the transmitter is held. For opthum range hd performance, hold the transmitter vertically when approaching the vehicle. If the range gradually decreases over time even though the transiitter is held vertically, change the battery in the transmitter. The range will decrease if mure than one3ransmitter is in range at the same time. Avoid taking more than onetransmitter into vehicle range at the same time. Do not put the transmitter into a metal container, which will prevent the .signal from getting- to the vehicle. hen you move the transmitter into vehicle range, the theft deterrent system automatically disengages and the driver's door automatically unlocks. When you move the transmitter out of vehide range with the' do.ors closed and the key out af the ignition, the system will automatically: Lock both .dooxs after -a five-second Immediately arm the theft deterrent Sound the horn once to signal that Turn-off the interior lights. delay. system. the doors are locked. The theft deterrent system will still operate using the .pma d0.w lock. See the Index under .Universal The#? DeZerrenzt. You mEQT also Llnbclr the passenger door by pressing the-DOOR-buttoil Qn the transmitter, and the hatch by pressing the HATCH button, but only when the ignition is off. Features & Controls Passive Keyless Entry Settings With Passive Keyless Entry, you am usethe system to operate both doors, or' only the driver's door. You can also choose to disable the system, ifthere are times when. you would prefer .not to use Passive Keyless Entry. To Sdtch Dbor Settings: To switch the: setting, from automatically locking .and unlocking the .driver's door to autom,atically iocling: and unlocking both doors: 1. Insert the ignition key, but leave the ipition off. 2. With the transmitter in range, hold. the. DOOR, button for more than two seconds. The system.wil1 then cycle the doox. locks. 3. To switch back, repeat steps I; and 2. Turning the Passive Keyless Entry System Off 1, Take the keys out of the-ignition. 2. Hold the DOOR button on the tramrnitter for longer than two seconds. 3: The: system will sfgnal the shut-off by cycling the locks from lock to unlock. T.0 make sure the PKE system is off, turn the ignition on and look for the PASSIVE KEYLESS ENTRY hght on the Driver Information Center. If the PKE system Is on, the light will come on for-two seconds. If the systemis off, the light will not come on. When the system is off or me transmitter is left at home, none of the Passive Keyless. Entry features work. But you will still be able to work the manual and power locks, and arm the theft deterrent system. See the Index 'under Door Lacks, .Power Door Locks and Univerml Theft Deterrent. .. . - - Iy If you are working around your Corvette and are- keeping your keys with you, you rnight want to turn the Passive Keyless Entry system off to prevent the transmitter from activating the locks. You also might want to turn the system off if you have a passenger remaining in the vehicle. If the passenger leaves the vehicle with the dm arme.d, he or she might set it off. Enabling the Passive Keyless Entry System: To turn .the Passive Keyless Entry system: on again, simply follow steps 1 through 3'under Turning the- Passive: Keyless Entry System Off. There-are two ways to make sure that the passive feature is on. Either turn- the ignition on and check to see' that the PASSTvlE KE%LESS ENTRY light on the Driver Infomation Center comes on-for two seconds, or shut the doors. and walk away from the vehicle with the keys and transmitter. If the PKE system is on,.the doors.will lock. Passive Keyless Entry Safety Features This system makes it d.Scult for you to lock-your keys in the vehicle. If the keys are left In the ignition and you lock-the doors, the system dl1 automatically unlock the doors as soon as they close. Also, this system will not lock the doot &er the transmitter has moved out of range until the key is removed from the ignition and the.-driver's door has been opened. When using this system, you. should become aware of the:ham ale-rt once the doors lock automatically. If you have left your keys. in the ignition, the horn will .not souhd. Be sure to, lock the doors ,once- you have removed the key from the ignition. Features & Controls Passive Keyless Enfry Safety Features (CONT.) If you have your keys and the h.om does not sound, check to see’if the passive. feature is.enabled. If the system is enabled and the horn still won’t sound, see your dealer for -assistance. The transmitter shuts down after 21 seconds without movement to maximize battery life. If. you’ve lpclted your keys in the vehicle, but didn’t leave them in the ignition, wait 25 seconds, then rock the vehicle. A motion detector inside the. transmitter will send a si-gnal to “wake up’’ the vehicle, which will then unlock the doors. It is still possible to lock your lreys in the vehicle if the transmitter’s battery is low, or if it is in a location where a signal can’t be received, .For your convenience, a€ways take your keys with.you. io -Matching Transmitter(§) to Your Vehicle Your Corvette comes equipped from the -factory with one Passive Keyless Entry system transmitter. Additional transmitters may be purchased through your- dealer. Each Bey chain transmitter is coded to prevent another transmitter from unlocking your vehicle. If a transmitter is lost or stolen, a replacement can be purchasdthrough your dealer. Remember to bring theremaining. transmitter (s) with you when you go to your dealer. When the dealer matches the replacement transmitter to your vehicle, the remaining transmitter(s) must aIso be matched. ‘Once the new transmitter is coded, the lost transmitter will not unlock your vehicle. Programming Transmiff ers The Passive Keyless Entry system allows up to thee transmitters to be matched to your Corvette. Each transmitter has its own code. To operate with your~particular vehicle, the code needs to be programmed into the system. To Engage the Pmgramming Mode: 1 I Move all transmitters out of range. 2. Turn.the ignition key on. 3. Push the TRIP ODO button on the Driver Information Center twice. 4. Within five seconds, press and hold the FUEL INFO button on the Driver Inforfiation Center until the PASSIVE KEYLESS ENTRY light comes on and stays on. -- 5. Turn the ignition key to the Off position, but leave the key in the ignitiofi.. The PASSIVE KEYLESS ENTRY light should flash once per second signaling that the system is ready to program the first transmitter. The number of times the light flashes corresponds to the number ofthe transmitter you're programming (once -per second-for the..first trarrsmitter, twice per second for the second transmitter, and three times per second for the- third transmitter). Programming a Transmitter: 1. Bringa transmitter into range. 2. 'The PASSIVE KEYLESS ENTRY light will come on-and stay an, signaling that-the code has been stored.. 3. Move, the transmitter out of range. The system light will flash again and the system is ready for the next transmitter. 4. You can turn of€ the. pograrnming, node by removing the ley from the ignitipn or by turning the ignition on. Turning uff the programming. mode before you pro-gram my transmitters will-not .cancel-any transmitter codes akeady programmed into the system. Bringing m&e than one transmitter into range at :a time will make it difficult for the system to search-for individual codes. The program-ming: mode will shut off after two minutes Z you have not programed any -* ~l;ou have taken the key out of the after three transmitters have been If a transmitter is lost or stden, a replacement can be .purchased through yourdealer. If .fewer-than three transmitters are programmed, only those transmitters will work with your vehicle. When the.first transmitter is programmed, all prev.ious transmitter codes.,wiU be erased. So when , , , pto'grmming a new transmitter,~d other transmitters must be .reprogrammed. transmittegs, ignition, or programmed. SI - Features & Contr ,Is Baff ery Replacement Under normal use., the batteries in your key chain.tramnitter should last about eighteen months. You can tell the batteries are weak if the transmitter won’t workat the normal range in any location. If you have to get close to your vehicle before the transmitter works, it’s probably time to change the batteries. To Replace Yaw Battery: 1. Gently pry the back of the transmitter Off. 2. Gently push back the batteryretainer and remove the battery (DL2450 or equivalent), -3. Replace the battery by placing the negative side down first. 4. Replace the transmitter covmand squeeze the two halves together. 5. Check the transmitter operation. Theft Vehicle theft is big business, especially in some cities. Although yo.ur Corvette $as a number of theft deterrent features, we how that nothi-ng we put on it can make it impossible to steal. However, there are ways you can help. Key in the Ignition: If you walk awgy from your vehicle with the keys inside, it’-s ;an.easy target far joy riders or professional thieves-so don’t do it. When you park your Corvette and open the driver’s door, you’ll heat a chime reminding you to remove your key from the ignition and take it with you. Always do this. Your steering wheel will be locked, and so will yo.ur ignition. I€ you have-an autbmatic transmission,, taking your key out also locks your transmission-. And remiember to lock the doors. .A Universal Theft Deterrent Your Corvette has a theft, deterrent darm system. Witb-this syitm, the SECvrriI'IY light will flash..as you open the door (if yam ignition is off). This light 1.ernind.s you. tsar..m the theft deterrent: system. Here's 'How tu Ro It: I. open the doQr; 2. Lock the door with the. p.ower.door lock switch or Passive LQyless Entry System. The SECURITY light should come on and stay on, light should go off. 3. Close -all door$* .The: SECURITY If a door or the hatch is opened without ths key or Passive Keyfe'ss Entry systm, the alarm wil go off. Your vehicle's horn will sound for thee minutes, then WilLgo .off to save battery power. And, your vehiclewill not start. Remember, the theft deterrent sys-tem won't arm if you lock the doors with, a. key ox manual. 4oor lock. It ms only if you use a power door io& switch or. 'Passive Key]ess Entry system. Features & Controls If you set off the alarm by accident, unlock any door with your key, or insert the ignition key in the ignition. You can also turn off the alarm by using,the Passive Keyless Entry system. The alarm won't stop if you try to uniock a door any other way. How to Test the Alarm: Follow these steps .to test your alarm System: 1 Make sure that the rear hatch is 2. Leave -a window down. 3. Arm the system as explained 4. Close the doors and wait five seconds. 5. Reach in though the window, unlock the door from inside the vehicle, and open the door. The alarm should sound. 6. Shut off the alarm by using the. door key to uniock either door from the outside of.the vehicle, or insert the key in the ignition. latched. previously. I r", f I J If the atarm does not sound when it should, check to see- if the horn works. The horn fuse may be blown. To replace the fuse, see the Index under Pus@ G Circuit Breukers . To reduce the possibility af theft, always arm the theft deterrent system when leavh.lg your vehicle. PASS-Key'" Your vehicle is. equipped with the PASS-Key'" (Personalized Automotive Security -System) theft deterrent system. PASS-Key" is:a passive theft deterrent System. This m-eans ygu don't have to do- anything different to amn or disarm the system. It worlrs when you insert m remove the key ~~QI-II the ignition. PASS-Key'" uses a resistor pellet in the ignition key that matches a decoder in your vehicle. Whenthe PAS.S-Key'" system. senses thgt someone is using the.wrong key, it shuts dom the vehiWs starter md he1 systems. For about the minutes, the starter won't work and hel won't Let me know how you make out Marty |
12-11-2019 | #52 |
Join Date: Nov 2019
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Yes, I see that section now. I was about 7 pages ahead on pass key. I will try programming system tomorrow. Only question I still have is wouldn't the remote be working manually or are you suggesting that the fob could have some how lost its programming?
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12-11-2019 | #53 |
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Could have happened, BUT, you may have toggled it off.
You toggle passive action on or off by depressing and holding the door button for 2-3 seconds until the locks cycle on and off. You may have inadvertently turned it off. Perhaps try that first. I would also check all door switches to make sure that they are working properly, and the hatch switch as well. Marty |
12-11-2019 | #54 |
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Batteries only last 18 months?
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12-11-2019 | #55 |
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Your chime, interior lights and ignition key are all interrelated.
Once you have all of them working, I submit that the car will crank. Everything that you have stated points to the starter circuit not being energized You hear fuel and vacuum pumps, which are all activated for the start sequence. However, if you read the FSM, it specifically states that failing the anti theft protocol only prevents CRANKING. It would be great if you could determine if there is 12 plus volts going to the starter when the key is turned to start. If it is, then the percussion persuasion applied to the starter as Mark suggested likely will get you going. Although my bet is you are not getting that voltage as the VATS is preventing it. The CCM wants to see a car unlocked with the key or the remote, then interior light draw, then correct resistance in the ignition circuit. Now in the shop I do not have to do all 3 each time, but if 1,2, or 3 have NOT happened, the starter does not get energized by the CCM. You MAY, repeat MAY have done something to the CCM when you installed the battery or charged it, but I doubt that at this point. Until you have pass key, chime and interior lights, I would not be suspicious of the CCM. Also have you tried the start with both the battery and a battery box connected while turning the key? I am more suspicious of your door switches. they directly control both the chime and the interior lights, and as mentioned the CCM looks for input from those circuits. If your fuses are all good, then the switches are the next thing to look at. I am further puzzled as to why your fully charged battery died in one week. C-4's do not draw enough to do that unless something is creating such a draw. Or your battery is not as robust as you think. Did you take it for testing? And lastly, having only one key has not convinced me that there may still be an issue with the resistance. Many of these things are simple to rule out. But at this point, we have not ruled out 1- the battery 2-PKE 3 interior lights 4 key 5 key circuit. Marty |
12-11-2019 | #56 |
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Marty,Today tried to get remote to work but no good. Tried to reprogram following the sequence you sent me and that did not work. I didn't get any messages displayed when I started the programming. Holding the lock button down also does nothing. The door lock switches both work fine as does horn and headlights and the hatch release button works. Radio works and seats work. I do have full voltage on the 10ga red wire in the wire loom. Still no chime when keys are in the ignition and door is opened, also don't notice any interior lights when door opened. Had battery load tested and its strong, only 2 weeks old. Also put new battery in remote fob 2 weeks ago.
I have tried putting a battery charger on boost 200 amp when the old battery was in and that also didn't work. When I turn the key on it seems that all the normal lights come on for a time on the dash with the exception of security or PKE. WHAT DO YOU THINK. Thanks, Ed |
12-11-2019 | #57 |
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Do your interior lights light if you move the dimmer all the way beyond high to turn on the lights?
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12-11-2019 | #58 |
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Don't know, I'm guessing that they will not just based on the fact I've never changed the setting from when they were working. I'll be back to where the car is stored on Friday and I will give it a try.
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12-12-2019 | #59 |
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12-12-2019 | #60 |
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Re: 93 Starter Not Engaging
Also good advice, be trying these suggestions tomorrow! Thanks.
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