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Old 02-28-2007   #41
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Frank, I too would believe him if the motor was ported. but if you read it closely , he stgates it is an absoultly stk motor with no porting at all. TOTALLY STOCK. THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE. I offered to pay for a test session @ Coreys' . he replied with a smart mouthed punk statement. that I was being childish. No class just a little punk with a mouth. IMHO.

Please take the time to read was done to the 93 and newer engines, and maybe then you'll understand why my plenum was never removed.

Also, you might want to think before you start calling someone a smart mouth punk, with no class.
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Old 02-28-2007   #42
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NO , you might really want to think who you are dealing with son. I would make a phone call to Corey before you keep flappin your yap. Put up or go fish.
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Old 02-28-2007   #43
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Jon...
easy there big fella...Sam is not a punk..in any sense of the word.
He has 2 zr1's and a stable of other cars and is a corvette guy...
I am sorry you feel like..he's not stating the truth...but...you must
remember..things happen at the factory sometimes...that's why all
cars don't run the same..some faster or slower. Sam is a stand up guy,
and has many business interests, that keep him very busy. No need to attack the man's integrity...i'm the one that started this thread, to see
if there were other car's out there..with similiar results..i've heard of another.."freak" car...but don't know who owns, it. Sam never stated
anything on his car's engine was not altered, he just explained,
HE has never done anything to it...since it left the factory.
I think, someday, something good for all zr1s could possibly come out of a
thread of this nature..after all, sharing results, and idea's, makes the world go round. One, other thing, no body died and made me king of the day...i just know..from experience..that one day..you might..need some help, or you might be standing in line at a zr1 function...and you'll meet a
guy in the food line...with his wife and kids...and it could be someone you
were a little mean to on a forum... like me. and then you'll feel bad,
like i did....food for thought..keith
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Old 02-28-2007   #44
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Civil discourse and disagreement with other peoples point of view can be accomplished without rudeness or name calling. This discussion is interesting in that most of us are looking for greater HP without having to sell a kidney to achieve it. Therefore it can continue with the aforementioned in mind.

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Old 02-28-2007   #45
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Civil discourse and disagreement with other peoples point of view can be accomplished without rudeness or name calling. This discussion is interesting in that most of us are looking for greater HP without having to sell a kidney to achieve it. Therefore it can continue with the aforementioned in mind.


Agreed ZF u must have been a lawyer in a past lifetime
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Old 03-01-2007   #46
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DM isnt exactly the best place to go for tech information...I have no comment about factory freaks or 8388s car (I dont know him) but I can say some cars can run a BIT stronger than others but in general the "My car is a freak" is old streetracer speak for....

The people assmbling these things didnt decide they got paid too much per hour decided to make a special one, hold up the line and....
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Old 03-01-2007   #47
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I am sorry if I offended anyone . Last thing on this, I DiDn't start it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. Being lucky enough to own 3 z 290s and 1 95 I am very familiar with the differences . the cam timing is 10, 20 is the removal of the primary injector boss. plus a little better exhaust my 95 with borla ex no and k &nwith cut filter 361@6300. the car has 13k miles and has 4 % leakdown in the worst cylinder. the stk 90 down to the paper air filter 6% leakdown in the worst cylinder 331.9 @6100. what are the hrwhp figures of other members with totally stk cars It would be intersting to hear. or update the figures on the hp & E.T sheet. I believe that one is 3 yrs old ?
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DM isnt exactly the best place to go for tech information...I have no comment about factory freaks or 8388s car (I dont know him) but I can say some cars can run a BIT stronger than others but in general the "My car is a freak" is old streetracer speak for....

The people assmbling these things didnt decide they got paid too much per hour decided to make a special one, hold up the line and....
Any where you can find information..IMHO..is the best place for it.
domestic misfits, is a forum, of fun loving car people..they cut up, but
also know what they are talking about...or at least most of them..

these engines..were hand built...for the most part..extra time and consideraton..were given to them..it said so in the book
"heart of the beast"...that being said, there are a ton of "urban legends"
its all speculation at this point.
When i originated this post...it was to see if others had a car, with similiar numbers, it wasn't Sam spouting off..bragging..he was stating a fact that,
Ls type engines are less expensive in his opinion, to build high horsepower,
than the LT5, not dissing the Lt5, but hey..you can buy an LS7 for about
10 grand...a stroker will cost you double to triple that.
he told me, that his stronger running ZR1 goes 119 mph in the 1/4 ///
and dyno'd at 411 with other zr1 owners dyno'ing too..I would ask Sam,
who some of the others owners,were, if he even knew them?
to compare their numbers, which might give us insight on why his car is about 25 hp..higher than standard, Sam, explained he had never taken the top off his car, so i'm just speculating...that something was done at the factory,, since..his numbers are alot higher..he explained the cams were timed...maybe we can have Sam, explain, if he did the timing, or had it done? Although i know he's not around this forum too much.
Jon, no one thinks you are a bad person, it's just..we wanna keep it
civil, w/ no name calling, and Sam, knows this too. Let's live and learn,
Everyone that posts on this forum is a very valuable commodity, from which we can all learn and make fun of. You've forgot more than i know, about engines, and tech stuff..
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I am sorry if I offended anyone . Last thing on this, I DiDn't start it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.. Being lucky enough to own 3 z 290s and 1 95 I am very familiar with the differences . the cam timing is 10, 20 is the removal of the primary injector boss. plus a little better exhaust my 95 with borla ex no and k &nwith cut filter 361@6300. the car has 13k miles and has 4 % leakdown in the worst cylinder. the stk 90 down to the paper air filter 6% leakdown in the worst cylinder 331.9 @6100. what are the hrwhp figures of other members with totally stk cars It would be intersting to hear. or update the figures on the hp & E.T sheet. I believe that one is 3 yrs old ?
My car is a 1990, it's stock other than, headers, and at the time dynamax
ultra's ss catback..no chip..at bowling green, it dyno'd 353.3 rwhp
i have since went to corsa and can feel a seat in the pants difference,
so i'm guessing the corsa added a few ponies...i am taking the car to
haibeck soon, to get gears, and keyless entry installed, at that time,
he will, burn a chip, and just check the car out..i will dyno the car at
BG..for all to compare the numbers...maybe it'll give us a starting point,
as i travel the mod road to heaven.
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Old 03-01-2007   #50
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that sound like fun. you will love the gears first gear is a real squirrell monkey . you will learn to pedal your car . let me know how it turns out and have a great day
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