Member's Only?

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by A26B

Actually, if you were a member, you would be entitled to access the Registry Members Only forum and obtain that information, if you were interested enough to look it up. If you are not a member and would like to know the answers to your questions pertaining to the Registry, then I would recommend that you consider re-joining.

I am not sure but I suspect he will pass on your recommendation.

That is to Not become a paying member so he does not run into this kind of Forum Board philosophy (philosophy represented by some Forum Board Members) even if he were interested enough to look it up......"It is impossible to have a rational discussion with an irrational person"

Or.....to be helpful why not just look the information up for him yourself and post for him to make it simple.
And/or you can just Ban him from your web site if you do not agree with him here.

Cliff

[xlr8nflorida]

Originally Posted by Dynomite

I am not sure but I suspect he will pass on your recommendation.

That is to Not become a paying member so he does not run into this kind of Forum Board philosophy (philosophy represented by some Forum Board Members) even if he were interested enough to look it up......"It is impossible to have a rational discussion with an irrational person"

Or.....to be helpful why not just look the information up for him yourself and post for him to make it simple.

Cliff

Seriously Jerry? No Thanks.

You try to make Membership like its this "Exclusive Commodity" The cost of $65 is a joke. The reason Members fall out or don't want to join the Registry is because of POOR Leadership, lack of communication, no transparency and hidden agendas or conflict of interest. Funny how you ignored the other thread, but were posting on the board all week and you never fail to respond quickly when people want to buy parts from you.

The bottom line is the board does what it wants so paying the dues or being a member/non member is irrelevant. You don't face the music and address real issues and concerns but instead make up a bunch of excuses or why you can't execute. How about a few years back when we kept asking for the financial Documents but nobody would produce them? Even then there never was full disclosure just like on a bunch of other items. Then when they were produced it looked like a 4th grader did them and debits didn't equal credits.

So Jerry, please tell us why the newsletters haven't been produced and why the forum can't be updated on a regular basis?

Why don't you just admit you screwed up big time and thought it would be acceptable to not give the members what they were entitled to because that is exactly what happened. Except now, you have some members who want part of their dues back!

And will the members be given refunds for your lack of performance and execution of the newsletters in a timely fashion?


You feel its Members complaining. Here is a novel concept for you, listen to the Members, address their concerns and fix them. Then you won't have to have threads that are 9 pages long. That is what a True Leader does, they fix problems and lead their TEAM.

But you have no real excuse for your poor performance therefore you just ignore the threads.

A true leader should be judged by what he has not: Ego, arrogance, and self‑interest. A true leader sees his work as a self‑less service towards a higher purpose. As the sagists say leadership is not power and dominance. It is servitude.That doesn’t mean that a leader is weak. He derives great strength from his dedication to a purpose that is greater than himself.

When it comes time to take credit, he makes himself invisible. But he is the first to arrive at a time of need, and he will never shrink away in fear.

There is absolutely no accountability for the Board Members. There are major egos in place and the excuse of we are "volunteers" and we don't get paid gets old very quickly. Then the famous quote, "If you don't like it or can do better, why don't you run for office!"

Perhaps more of a servitude attitude would build a better organization. Also members who have the actual skill set to execute the demands of the job. When there was no newsletter, Dwight got thrown under the Bus and it was told to the Members that all the artwork got lost and the new software was very sophisticated. I called BS back then and it was BS. The artwork for the registry is such a joke, a graphic artist could recreate all of it easily in a few days at most. Let me guess you are still trying to find the artwork which is why no newsletters right? The whole situation is a joke and an embarrassment to the registry.

An entire board of guys can't produce 4 newsletters a year or 1 Newsletter every 3 months.

Newsletters that were part of Membership where people paid $65 dues.

Yet, the board decided they were not going to produce the Newsletter - Real Professional!

Then you choose to brush it under the rug, not respond (which is always the case) Imagine that, people want what they thought they paid for!!! Wow the nerve of some people, they are real jerks huh?

I can't even imagine how your accounting records look like especially pursuant to 501 C.

[A26B]

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida

Seriously Jerry? No Thanks.

Yes, I was serious.

You try to make Membership like its this "Exclusive Commodity" The cost of $65 is a joke. The reason Members fall out or don't want to join the Registry is because of POOR Leadership, lack of communication, no transparency and hidden agendas or conflict of interest. Funny how you ignored the other thread, but were posting on the board all week and you never fail to respond quickly when people want to buy parts from you.

Nothing funny about me ignoring the "other thread." I did not respond simply because it was not in the proper venue to be discussing Registry business details about Registry Membership matters.

The bottom line is the board does what it wants so paying the dues or being a member/non member is irrelevant. You don't face the music and address real issues and concerns but instead make up a bunch of excuses or why you can't execute.

Well, that's your viewpoint and you are entitle to to that, I just don't suscribe to your ideology and I am in a position to be more informed on the subject of what the Executive Committee has done and is doing. BTW, The ZR1 Net Registry does not have a "board" per se.

How about a few years back when we kept asking for the financial Documents but nobody would produce them? Even then there never was full disclosure just like on a bunch of other items. Then when they were produced it looked like a 4th grader did them and debits didn't equal credits.

How about that? you're referring to a period before this Executive Committee was elected and you expect me to respond to something I had no involvement in?

So Jerry, please tell us why the newsletters haven't been produced per the and why the forum can't be updated on a regular basis? And will the members be given refunds for your lack of performance and execution of the newsletters in a timely fashion?

If I knew your name, I could respond to you in a like manner, but I don't because there was no information in your forum profile.

This question has been asked and answered... more than once. Aparrently, you are either no reading the replies or failing to comprehend. In either regard, there is nothing more to say on the subject.... in this particular forum.

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by A26B

If I knew your name, I could respond to you in a like manner, but I don't because there was no information in your forum profile.

This question has been asked and answered... more than once. Aparrently, you are either no reading the replies or failing to comprehend. In either regard, there is nothing more to say on the subject.... in this particular forum.

My name is Cliff AKA Dynomite......

rather than the Aparrently, you are either no reading the replies or failing to comprehend. In either regard, there is nothing more to say on the subject.... in this particular forum.

Why not just answer the question vice take shots.

I am with Mitt Romney when he told Harry Reid......."Put (post) up or shut up"

Cliff

[xlr8nflorida]

This question has been asked and answered... more than once. Aparrently, you are either no reading the replies or failing to comprehend. In either regard, there is nothing more to say on the subject.... in this particular forum.

I can comprehend just fine Jerry but since you are taking cheap shots apparently you can't spell!

I don't need my answer privately. Answer in this public forum here.

Why is it that your team can't produce 8 newsletters over a 2 year period?

Why can't you update the web site on a regular basis where the homepage isn't 4-6 months outdated?

[Dynomite]

Originally Posted by xlr8nflorida

Why can't you update the web site on a regular basis where the homepage isn't 4-6 months outdated?

I can vouch for the fact the guys are working on this if you mean zr1netregistry.com......and doing a pretty good job (actually superb Job led by DaveK) but not available just yet.

Cliff

[xlr8nflorida]

Originally Posted by Dynomite

I can vouch for the fact the guys are working on this if you mean zr1netregistry.com......and doing a pretty good job (actually superb Job led by DaveK) but not available just yet.

Cliff

I'm talking about the existing homepage edits which would take all of about 15 minutes.

[ZZZZZR1]

Ok. This is enough....