Refinishing the engine - Would it take away NCRS points? - Page 5 - ZR-1 Net Registry Forums

Ed Hoffman · 07-08-2006

Ricky, you want to go crazy? Try restoring a 57 factory drag racer Vette. I spent a total of 5 years locating all the original parts, and in the restoration. My 93 will not cost anywhere near the 57. The only thing missing on the Ruby is the original oil filter and battery. Nobody I have contacted, including Restoration Batteries Company, will be restoring the original Delco Freedom 75-B 695 cranking amp battery. As I related on the NCRS net to a lot of folks, buy the current Delco for the ZR and take a few originality points. I have found, and purchased, two PF-970C, 155 part number. silver background, black lettering, from two different sources. They are not the e-Bay units which are mulit-colored early replacements. The current replacements that are available in the west, from dealers, are 970-C, blue in color. I hope you drive your ZR as much as I do. Every day I put a few more miles on it because it is so much fun to drive. The 57 is fun but it drives like a 29 Dodge Dump Truck. When it comes to braking in the 57, you have to first think about how far you have to stop, so you can begin to apply the brakes in time to avoid objects.. Not like th ZR, braking is right now. Oh, and one more thing I found out about the batteries. The tooling die's for the batteries in question are controlled by a company (EMI Delphi) and will not release them, or have destroyed them. Either way they have gone the way of the saber toothed tiger.

collector96 · 08-18-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin

yes but it's not worth it.

as I said on cf
you will get condition points and loose originality or you will loose condition and keep originality.....If it was me judging I'd give you both since i know it's impossible to enjoy these cars and keep the stock finish looking perfect.

If it was me judging I'd give you both since i know it's impossible to enjoy these cars and keep the stock finish looking perfect

That is why YOU are not judging
The Judging system does not work the way you want it to,
It works the way it is supposed to
Quit trying to make up your own rules
If you do not like the rules have your car judged somewhere else
Ron
Retired BG and NCRS Judge

Kevin · 08-18-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by collector96

If it was me judging I'd give you both since i know it's impossible to enjoy these cars and keep the stock finish looking perfect

That is why YOU are not judging
The Judging system does not work the way you want it to,
It works the way it is supposed to
Quit trying to make up your own rules
If you do not like the rules have your car judged somewhere else
Ron
Retired BG and NCRS Judge

Listen here little dog, you may want to go back at someone who gives a **** as to what you think. I've been involved with the NCRS for the last 7 years. I'm well aware of how the judging works and I know that it is up to the person judging to determine what points are taken away or given. Go waste your time trying to find some OEM leaking oil cooler lines. I'll go rip off a 7000 rpm shift.

Have a good day.

Corvette95 · 08-18-2006

I agree, there is no need for rude,smart a**, remarks on THIS forum.

taximan1 · 08-20-2006

why can't we all get along ??

There really is room in "ZR1 World" for both groups.

I love drag racing and SCCA class racing. But I am also a card carrying NCRS member (since 1993), and have top flighted a few cars.

Both of these groups should be very much at home with ZR1's. Our cars are the ultimate go fast machines, and many argue thats what they were made for. I agree. And the more mods, the faster they wil go.

On the other hand, these are "relatively rare" cars that are an important part of Corvette history, and need to be preserved and nurtured, just like animals on the protected list. There are only 6,000 out there, and only 1,300 between 93' and 95'.

Lets respect each others passions, and how they chose to live them out.

Both groups have in common their love of the ZR1.

Kevin · 08-20-2006

6939 cars, but whose counting

07-08-2006	#41
Ed Hoffman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 26	Re: Refinishing the engine - Would it take away NCRS points? Ricky, you want to go crazy? Try restoring a 57 factory drag racer Vette. I spent a total of 5 years locating all the original parts, and in the restoration. My 93 will not cost anywhere near the 57. The only thing missing on the Ruby is the original oil filter and battery. Nobody I have contacted, including Restoration Batteries Company, will be restoring the original Delco Freedom 75-B 695 cranking amp battery. As I related on the NCRS net to a lot of folks, buy the current Delco for the ZR and take a few originality points. I have found, and purchased, two PF-970C, 155 part number. silver background, black lettering, from two different sources. They are not the e-Bay units which are mulit-colored early replacements. The current replacements that are available in the west, from dealers, are 970-C, blue in color. I hope you drive your ZR as much as I do. Every day I put a few more miles on it because it is so much fun to drive. The 57 is fun but it drives like a 29 Dodge Dump Truck. When it comes to braking in the 57, you have to first think about how far you have to stop, so you can begin to apply the brakes in time to avoid objects.. Not like th ZR, braking is right now. Oh, and one more thing I found out about the batteries. The tooling die's for the batteries in question are controlled by a company (EMI Delphi) and will not release them, or have destroyed them. Either way they have gone the way of the saber toothed tiger. Last edited by Ed Hoffman; 07-08-2006 at 12:42 PM.

08-18-2006	#44
Corvette95 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Decatur, AL Posts: 1,119	Re: Refinishing the engine - Would it take away NCRS points? I agree, there is no need for rude,smart a, remarks on THIS forum. __________________ Corvette95 Registry and Forum (***********) 1989 C4 Conv Wht/Gry Auto Hardtop Top Flight SOLD 1995 C4 Coupe Purple/Blk 6 Speed 1989 C4 Conv Wht/Red Auto SOLD 1996 C4 Conv Black/Tan Auto SOLD 1994 C4 Coupe Wht/Blk SOLD 1995 C4 ZR-1 White/Gry #278 Dual Dunn Head SOLD 1986 C4 Coupe Black/Red 4+3 SOLD 1990 C4 ZR-1 Red/Red #0454

08-20-2006	#45
taximan1 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South Jersey Posts: 15	Re: Refinishing the engine - Would it take away NCRS points? why can't we all get along ?? There really is room in "ZR1 World" for both groups. I love drag racing and SCCA class racing. But I am also a card carrying NCRS member (since 1993), and have top flighted a few cars. Both of these groups should be very much at home with ZR1's. Our cars are the ultimate go fast machines, and many argue thats what they were made for. I agree. And the more mods, the faster they wil go. On the other hand, these are "relatively rare" cars that are an important part of Corvette history, and need to be preserved and nurtured, just like animals on the protected list. There are only 6,000 out there, and only 1,300 between 93' and 95'. Lets respect each others passions, and how they chose to live them out. Both groups have in common their love of the ZR1.

08-20-2006	#46
Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,632	Re: Refinishing the engine - Would it take away NCRS points? 6939 cars, but whose counting __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"