01-22-2013 | #41 |
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Re: Water/Methanol Injection...
cool stuff. I think running pure alchy would help on my engine as the CR has been bumped to 12-1.
but keep in mind the pent roof combustion chamber and dished pistons on the LT5 are very detonation resistant so the bottom line is that if your fuel and octane aren't detonating, you won't make much power. we tried advancing timing on my motor and it didn't detonate, but it didn't make any more power either. the LPE calibration had like 31 degree and marc used 29 and it did just as well. LPE was hoping the engine would make a bit more power running race gas. wasn't needed. no doubt that cleaning the carbon off and keeping everything clean will help the engine. one "bad side effect" of the LT5 is it tends to be a "carbon machine" and unless it gets enough time at WOT stretching it's legs, it tends to get carboned up. from what I see on the direct injection engines, not having the fuel to help clean off the valves can be a real issue. so alchy injection into the intake to "rinse it off" makes alot of sense. I run alchy injection on the TT Z06 and it allows me to crank the boost from 13 to 17 psi running pump gas. but the HP goes from 600 to 800 at the tires which honestly is more than I can hook up so it doesn't get used. I'm going to run some through at a lower setting just to clean off the valves and pistons and see if it runs better as soon as we get some hot weather. (poor mans seafoam)
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01-22-2013 | #42 |
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Re: Water/Methanol Injection...
Wow that's a clean install!
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Tony Davila (Projects) Water Meth: http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19422 Exhaust cut outs: http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22689 Auxiliary 12V install: http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22878 Auxiliary pusher fan install: http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=22859 Oil Catch can Project: http://www.zr1.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20320 Last edited by Tony Davila; 01-22-2013 at 09:34 PM. |
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01-22-2013 | #45 |
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Re: Water/Methanol Injection...
Tony,
Really nice install bro I'm anxious to see the dyno numbers. I think you are going to have a larger gain than you think. Like yourself and others have said its good to clean out the engine as well. Daniel
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01-22-2013 | #46 |
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Re: Water/Methanol Injection...
Thanks Daniel, I need to redyno my ride again with it on. I would like to know how much more I gain. But..... Dynos cost money and you need the time to do it so I will have to wait.
I'm telling you I feel the difference so I am a believer.
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01-23-2013 | #48 |
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Re: Water/Methanol Injection...
Thanks Hog, hopefully I can get a dyno run in before the Gathering to give more data for those that have contemplated installing a system.
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01-23-2013 | #50 |
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Re: Water/Methanol Injection...
Tony,
I'm not sure of how the control systems on these systems work, but you're not getting a valid vacuum signal by tying in upstream of the throttle plates at the IAT sensor location. As load increases, plenum pressure rises, however at the air horn pressure is at it's highest at low load and decreases as load increases. Don't know if this means anything or not. Just throwing it out there. Jep |
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