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Old 06-26-2010   #41
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So are you pretending you did not receive the information; or, are you only pretending to share the information here?

All kidding aside, there isn't much on the vette2vette web page. With my targa top off, my otherwise solid Z suddenly feels and sounds like a rattle trap. Unless I'm imagining things, with my eyes on the C4 A-pillar, my hands on the wheel and my *** on the seat it looks and feels like the front end is moving independently of the seat I'm sitting on. If I goose the accelerator in first or second gear, I can feel the steering wheel pull. With the top in place, the car is tight and does not rattle or pull.

Jeff, did you experience any of what I'm describing with the top off before the frame braces were installed? Do the frame braces only improve the situation or do they make the car feel like it did with the top in place?

Any information would be appreciated.
Scott,

My first C4 was a 84 4+7 manual with Z51 suspension. With the top off, over the railroad, I could see the steering wheel move laterally by about half an inch!
GM upgraded "K" member around 87 (I think). That reduced lateral shift by 1/8 to 1/4" - depends how bad the undulation is.
My 91 Z, I had "Corvette Master" in Casselberry, FL, take an "X" member (sort of a c channel) for convertibles and stitch weld a plate effectively creating a box member. Front of coupe has a bolt hole already (I think). For the rear, Robbie had to drop a bolt into a plate and weld the plate to the bird cage. This worked real good but added some weight.
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Old 06-26-2010   #42
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That's what R-D cross brace is, stronger then a stock converitble cross brace.

http://www.r-dracing.com/CROSS-FRAME.htm

I have this, it work VERY VERY well. It just hangs WAY to low to the ground. My car is lowered 1-1.5 and the cross brace can not be used for street driving.
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Old 06-26-2010   #43
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That's what R-D cross brace is, stronger then a stock converitble cross brace.

http://www.r-dracing.com/CROSS-FRAME.htm

I have this, it work VERY VERY well. It just hangs WAY to low to the ground. My car is lowered 1-1.5 and the cross brace can not be used for street driving.
So the cross brace is only $435 and the new frame braces will be $795. Any clearance issues with the cross brace on stock ride height cars? How much does it weigh?
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Old 06-26-2010   #44
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So are you pretending you did not receive the information; or, are you only pretending to share the information here?

All kidding aside, there isn't much on the vette2vette web page. With my targa top off, my otherwise solid Z suddenly feels and sounds like a rattle trap. Unless I'm imagining things, with my eyes on the C4 A-pillar, my hands on the wheel and my *** on the seat it looks and feels like the front end is moving independently of the seat I'm sitting on. If I goose the accelerator in first or second gear, I can feel the steering wheel pull. With the top in place, the car is tight and does not rattle or pull.

Jeff, did you experience any of what I'm describing with the top off before the frame braces were installed? Do the frame braces only improve the situation or do they make the car feel like it did with the top in place?

Any information would be appreciated.
Yes, car was like a noodle before with the top off, it is better witht he brace, but I still have not been able to adjust it. As for Jacking, yes I forgot to do that.. will get to it this week,

Jason has been at Bloomington Gold this weekend, I am home afetr 3 days of the show and heat I needed a break.

I have GP pricing, which is good, but it is tiered depending on amount of people, I am going to put a webpage together for the pricing and try to get a picture of the demo he had a chunk of frame..

But I think the discount will be good if we get enough interest. just a couple more days..
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Old 06-26-2010   #45
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Group Purchase Pricing:

http://vettextc.net/MY_ZR-1/Frame_Brace_GP.html
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Thanks for this. I'll have to email him find out what shipping will cost before I can make a determination........
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Just how does one install the C4 Frame Brace?
the OEM front location for the X brace and one bolt int he rear.. Jason will have all the instructions for mounting
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Thanks for this. I'll have to email him find out what shipping will cost before I can make a determination........
Count me in if the GP hits 25.
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Old 06-27-2010   #49
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Just how does one install the C4 Frame Brace?
Im having a hard time determing how this mounts as well. Any better pics avail on a lift?
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Old 06-27-2010   #50
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Jeff, thanks for getting the infromation and putting together a group buy. Any chance of getting a picture or a diagram of the pieces that come with the kit?
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