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GOLDCYLON · 08-31-2008

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Originally Posted by tomtom72

Hey Daryl glad to hear that all is okay! Nice job dude!

You are aware of the GM reason for using the "sprung steel band clamps"? They were getting complaints about 'coolant smell' from Z owners. The 'smell' was after the motor went thru a heat cycle, and upon cool down after engine shut off the smell was fairly strong. No liquid leaks, but a ton of small vapor leaks. The 'ideal' type screw clamps were not expanding and contracting with the aluminium parts and allowing vapor to escape....their answer to this was to use those "clamps from he!!".

I'd be curious to know how the real Samco clamps perform with regards to this issue. Yea, I used ideal clamps and mine leaks vapor on cool down...we didn't have the samco clamps when I bought my hoses.

Good luck with the new stuff!

Tom

Tom I remembered your post up about that issue earlier. In fact I remember you went back somewhere to try and recover the clamps. After the problems with the clamps this was the best solution for me. These clamps look identical to the ideal clamps but are stainless. they track smooth while turning and are tight. After I go through a few heat cycles I will let you know. Phil just stated he had the Samco preferred hose clamps and he can smell the glycol.

GOLDCYLON · 08-31-2008

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Originally Posted by -=Jeff=-

Thanks GC!! I will check it out

If you cant find it let me know. My son works for Checker maybe I can get a Forum buy together lol. But before that happens somebody has to post up what the real GM tool looks like because I want to see the differnce. My little tool is not exact but gets the job done.

I should have my car all together tonight. I will post up the pics of the install and the tool for everyone to take a gander at. GC

GOLDCYLON · 08-31-2008

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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette

Shot some of those clamps across the garage like a cannon,

lucky I didnt lose an eye.

No **** bro, or break a finger or injure a small animal

rhipsher · 08-31-2008

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Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

No **** bro, or break a finger or injure a small animal

I don't know man! Squirrels are pretty tough. I hit one friday at 50mph. I heard 5 thumps hit the floor board. I looked in my rear view mirror and saw him run right up a tree. I couldn't believe it.

A26B · 08-31-2008

Drive around those armadillo's though!! Man, they're like hitting a rock!

flyin ryan · 08-31-2008

The moose up here do serious damage to 18 wheelers, forget about passenger vehicles

, it can get real ugly when Bruce the Moose decides he wants to cross the road

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-=Jeff=- · 08-31-2008

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Originally Posted by GOLDCYLON

If you cant find it let me know. My son works for Checker maybe I can get a Forum buy together lol. But before that happens somebody has to post up what the real GM tool looks like because I want to see the differnce. My little tool is not exact but gets the job done.

I should have my car all together tonight. I will post up the pics of the install and the tool for everyone to take a gander at. GC

I have Murrays, Advance and Autozone, as well as Napa and Carquest

if none have it I will let you know

GOLDCYLON · 08-31-2008

Heres a picture of the Corban clamp removers

GOLDCYLON · 08-31-2008

Ok completed.

You need to cut the rad shroud in order to get the shroud out. Its the only way unless you pull the AC lines and Oil Cooler lines. Dont worry I cleaned it after the install !

All together !

New Radiator

-=Jeff=- · 08-31-2008

I cut my shroud the same way when I did it too, but mine is coming back apart this winter to swap in the bottom breather air box

08-31-2008	#35
A26B Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Arcadia,OK Posts: 3,394	Re: The dreaded water pump failure and a weekend project Drive around those armadillo's though!! Man, they're like hitting a rock! __________________ Jerry Downey JERRYS LT5 GASKETS & PARTS http://www.jerrysgaskets.com 1994 *ZR-1*, Black/Black, Lingenfelter Aerobody, 416cu in, 3.91 gears, coil-over susp, Brembo brakes, etc. 2016 Black-Red, 3LT-Z51 Auto 8-speed.

08-31-2008	#36
flyin ryan Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Edmonton, Alberta or Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 2,741	Re: The dreaded water pump failure and a weekend project The moose up here do serious damage to 18 wheelers, forget about passenger vehicles , it can get real ugly when Bruce the Moose decides he wants to cross the road . __________________ There are no limit's mans ingenuity, just as mans ingenuity will never conquer the forces & behavior of this planet...Smokey Y.

08-31-2008	#38
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08-31-2008	#39
GOLDCYLON Join Date: May 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 9,155	Re: The dreaded water pump failure and a weekend project Ok completed. You need to cut the rad shroud in order to get the shroud out. Its the only way unless you pull the AC lines and Oil Cooler lines. Dont worry I cleaned it after the install ! All together ! New Radiator __________________ GOLDCYLON - 91 ZR-1 #2014 GOLDCYLON - 90 ZR-1 #2794, 4L60e (Formerly Schrade's) GOLDCYLON - 11 CTS-V Arizona State Director 91 WHITE/BLACK #2014. 380 P&P&PCed,Ported Heads, Jeal Long tubes, Corsa Exhaust/FIKSE FM-5s /LED TLs, LED Headlights, Front Wilwood 6 piston narrowlite calipers and rear Wilwood caliper street shop mod,CNCed Coolant Pipes,TPI Cvr,Filter cover,Stainless Bolts, DRM/DOM PROM /ZFDOC mod build #102,DRLs,BMAD with stainless Debris Screen,Coplan Air Blaster, Pioneer APP Radio 4,Brey-Krause HB,Sub Bar,Fire extinguisher seat mount,DRM Coilovers,LEDs everywhere,Compass mirror (orange),V1 DIC hidden display, Homelink sun visor, Carbon Fiber top x3 and APSIS Carbon Fiber interior, APSIS CF Steering Wheel/NAPA Leather, Banski trailing arms, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension) ZFDoc drive shaft safety loop, raptor shift light (orange),AO engineering louver front plate, Console seat cushion, 96CE seats with black custom Sheepskins, ss billet catch can,Viper remote entry/alarm,Cragar Rear Louvers,LED side louver lights, Dewitts Radiator with SPAL fans and a Woods 160 T-Stat 90 RED/BLACK #2794. 4L60e Automatic Stage V by RPM Transmission, TCI Dedicated TCM, OBX Stainless Headers, Corsa Exhaust, SAN Secondaries and Haibeck PROM, Exotic Muscle Coil overs, LED Interior Lights, LED Tail Lights, LED Headlights, 94 Sport seats with black custom Sheepskins , Cragar rear louvers, GS Front calipers, Banski Trailing arms, APSIS Carbon Fiber steering wheel, Front and Rear Baer Eradispeeds, DRLs, Guldstrand front suspension,urethane bushings from Prothane (total suspension), Dewitt's Raditor with Dual SPAL fans and a Haibeck 170 T-Stat 11 RED/GREY CTS-V

08-31-2008	#40
-=Jeff=- Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 7,169	Re: The dreaded water pump failure and a weekend project I cut my shroud the same way when I did it too, but mine is coming back apart this winter to swap in the bottom breather air box __________________ 1990 Corvette ZR-1 #1051 Watson Headers (2" Primary) - Flowmaster Cats - Borla Catback Late Model IH - Plenum Coilovers - 4.10s Custom Interior NCM Lifetime Member #978