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I want a 441! Damn that's got to be just awesome!
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Rob,the 391 is freaky fast.
The 441 power feels like it's going to twist the body right off the frame ![]() The 391 runs 132-133MPH in the 1/4 if the 441 runs a lil quicker that's fine but the price of a 441 is double of a 391. The 391 is a perfect engine big bore short stroke plenty of power. The 441 is almost useless for the street no traction till like 80mph. Pete
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Pete,
Any chance the 391 is a late (4 bolt) motor? Ted |
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I'm keeping my auto Z !!!! Toying with another 380 or twin dryer set up
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How important IS 2 vs. 4 bolt LT5s. the cross sectional area of the much larger 2 bolts used in the pre-93 LT5s is only ~ 12% less than the cross-sectional area of the 93-95 LT5. And, Kevin's 441 was a 2 bolt LT5 that ran in the low 10s w/o breaking anything.
The lower end of the LT5 with its molded in mains and Ladder lower with fitted caps has proven itself - NOT to be confused with the SBC 350 Chevy (NOT the same animal). I don't know the purpose of your question in this case, but noise from the SBC community gets all a twitter over 2 vs. 4 bolt comparisons using data/experience form the SBC to attempt to apply it to the LT5 by the same (number of main cap bolts) comparison...which is (arguably) irrelevant, no? |
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Wasn’t the 24hr run done w a 2 bolt block?
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The car it would go in is a 4-bolt...read harness & supporting equipment.
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Agree, not much difference overall robustness between 2 bolt and 4 bolt motors. However there are several critical parts that do not interchange between both engines. Off the top of my head these include oil pan, oil suction pickup tube, oil pump, front cover, camshafts, camshaft chain sprocket index plates. I’m my case I’m already heavily invested in the 4 bolt persuasion for my car. It would take some compelling circumstances for me to consider going with a 2 bolt motor.
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Ted its a 2 bolt.
If your interested i do have front cover and oil pan. This is stock stroke should not have any issues. Pete
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Thanks Pete. No doubt the motor is right. I’d just want it to drop right in...cause it would eventually go back to stock.
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