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Old 10-31-2016   #21
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Swap the coils around and see if the problem persists. to rule out bad coil / Wire
Ditto.
Also back in the hey day they had a problem with the lower spades on the coils being too loose.

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Ditto.
Also back in the hey day they had a problem with the lower spades on the coils being too loose.

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I've already replaced all the coils and the problem came back so pretty sure its not a coil at this point. I did notice when I plugged the coils onto the spades they really didn't seem to have much resistance, they just dropped on kinda dropped on and felt loose. What have people done to get a better connection from the coils to the coil spades?
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Old 10-31-2016   #23
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Ditto.
Also back in the hey day they had a problem with the lower spades on the coils being too loose.

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What symptoms were people seeing with this problem? Failure of the coil to fire at full strength or just not at all?
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Old 10-31-2016   #24
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What symptoms were people seeing with this problem? Failure of the coil to fire at full strength or just not at all?
It was like they had a miss.
Like a bad coil.
See if u can stick something small and sharp like a dental tool to tighten up the spade in the coil.

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You know now that I think about it I seem to recall someone adding material to the coil spades for a tighter fit.... does that sound familiar?
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You know now that I think about it I seem to recall someone adding material to the coil spades for a tighter fit.... does that sound familiar?
You would think however that would affect the coil itself. Here we have an issue w one of the towers.
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You would think however that would affect the coil itself. Here we have an issue w one of the towers.
Yes I would think that would be true, and it may be that I am dealing with more than one issue here and am getting too focused on the one coil tower.
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Old 11-02-2016   #28
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So I decided to do some testing on the fuel side:

Doing the FSM chart A7 fuel pressure test with FP2 removed resulted in 45psi - about 4psi below the minimum okay range for the test.

I also used the fuel pump test circuit with a multimeter, I saw just over 4 amps draw on each pump and about 8.5 amps with both pumps running.

Activating each pump through the fuel pump test circuit and checking fuel pressure I got the following:

FP1 fuse removed resulted in 51psi

FP2 fuse removed resulted in 42psi

Shouldn't both pumps be the same PSI when activated individually through the fuel pump test circuit?
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Old 11-02-2016   #29
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It was like they had a miss.
Like a bad coil.
See if u can stick something small and sharp like a dental tool to tighten up the spade in the coil.

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Unless the DIS is failing. But I haven't seen that happen yet
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Just did some more testing:
MAP checked out okay
Fuel pressure at idle is 42psi
Right Block Learn at 128
Left Block Learn at 144 - indicating fuel is being added
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