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HAWAIIZR-1 · 09-05-2011

So we have a Dynamite and a Dynomite. I have to look good for the "a" and the "o" in my old age.

Cliff,

I think basically Jerry is trying to step it up a notch and bring more quality to the organization as is Jim, David, George and the others. Can you imagine the amount of time them and others have put into this Registry? I know you can, I feel like I wish there were more I could do myself.

Like Jerry said, it could have just been a conversation in the paying member side but the intent was to get input from all so no harm, no foul here. We somewhat already have that in the newsletter as I believe those tech articles should only be available to paying members. I have to do a research paper about the US Debt Crisis so you can feel sorry for me now.

Take care,

Craig

Kevin · 09-05-2011

my membership in the registry comes as goes....the newsletter is nice, reading the old stuff is nice, and the shirts are nice. but what else do you get for your money besides a shirt and a newsletter? The main things are free, the friendship, carlisle, the gathering...there's no registry charge for it. It would be nice to have a little extra for the money you give to the registry

A1990 · 09-05-2011

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Originally Posted by Kevin

my membership in the registry comes as goes....the newsletter is nice, reading the old stuff is nice, and the shirts are nice. but what else do you get for your money besides a shirt and a newsletter? The main things are free, the friendship, carlisle, the gathering...there's no registry charge for it. It would be nice to have a little extra for the money you give to the registry

For the record, from the Registry's perspective, Carlisle, The Gathering, the forum and the Registry's website are not "free". We have expenses involved in each. Everything provided at the Registry tent during Carlisle would not be possible without the Registry's members and sponsors contributions.

Hammer · 09-06-2011

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Originally Posted by A26B

Maybe this subject should be moved to the Members Only Section, since in reality it would be the members who get to decide.

Will we do this by vote of the majority, i.e., 51% of ALL the registered members?

By the way:

How's Issues 26 and 27 of the HOTB coming along?
How's the revamping of the By-Laws comng along?
How's the redistricting of the Registry Regions coming along?
How's the revamped ZR-1 Registry Store coming along?
One of the board could call everybody in the Members Specials ad area and get that updated.

Just asking...seems there are plenty of other things to do besides what you are talking about taking on with a Tech Section.

Remember, this was posted in the Technical Forum Section not the Members section. Hammer away as usual.

Dynamite · 09-06-2011

Don't ya mean Hammer away as usual

I am with you......

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer

Will we do this by vote of the majority, i.e., 51% of ALL the registered members?

By the way:

How's Issues 26 and 27 of the HOTB coming along?
How's the revamping of the By-Laws comng along?
How's the redistricting of the Registry Regions coming along?
How's the revamped ZR-1 Registry Store coming along?
One of the board could call everybody in the Members Specials ad area and get that updated.

Just asking...seems there are plenty of other things to do besides what you are talking about taking on with a Tech Section.

Remember, this was posted in the Technical Forum Section not the Members section. Flame away...as usual.

ZZZZZR1 · 09-06-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer

Will we do this by vote of the majority, i.e., 51% of ALL the registered members?

I think Jerry ment move the thread to the members only section for a members only discussion.

By the way:

How's Issues 26 and 27 of the HOTB coming along?

Working on it (both Jerry and Phil are working on this) *** special edition about the Stillwater Event!!!!

How's the revamping of the By-Laws comng along?

Jerry has been working on something to bring to the membership and this isn't something that is done in a few weeks or months.

How's the redistricting of the Registry Regions coming along?

We have some of the redistricting done, but more to do and love to get members input on this.

How's the revamped ZR-1 Registry Store coming along?

Constantine has it nearly completed, but still has to be installed and set to work with our bank account, etc.

One of the board could call everybody in the Members Specials ad area and get that updated.

Just asking...seems there are plenty of other things to do besides what you are talking about taking on with a Tech Section.

Remember, this was posted in the Technical Forum Section not the Members section. Flame away...as usual.

John,

We are doing our best with finishing these very important projects (among other things not listed) and mixing it with our personal lives / work as well.

Thanks for posting this and hope to post more results soon!

David

Kevin · 09-08-2011

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Originally Posted by A1990

For the record, from the Registry's perspective, Carlisle, The Gathering, the forum and the Registry's website are not "free". We have expenses involved in each. Everything provided at the Registry tent during Carlisle would not be possible without the Registry's members and sponsors contributions.

What I meant that as a member/non-member I don't have to pay more to attend carlise or the gathering or hang out and ******** with other zr-1 guys. The burgers and drinks that the registry provided at carlisle were very nice and appreciated, if not by everyone definitely by me

tomtom72 · 09-09-2011

Cliff, No I didn't edit my post.....

I'm fairly sure it is as I originally wrote it...I see that my thoughts are not exactly clear though. I should have made a better demarcation between our Forum and the mothership ( net registry home site ).....senility I guess! I know what I meant, but it's not real clear to everyone else! My bad!

Every time I see "members only" I think of the netregistry site.....not our forum. I will have to remember to remember that we have a "members only" section here as well.

I had thought that the "Solutions" sticky here in our Technical Section would remain as viewable to all who come to our forum. I feel that Cliff's Notes is a great way to show possible ZR-1 buyers that if you buy one there is help that is not only a catalog of past issues & answers, but that it is a living section being constantly added to and updated as new issues come up. I had also thought that we would leave the "Maintenance" section at the mothership alone ( free as it is now ) to attract the same perspective buyers?

Tom

Aurora40 · 09-11-2011

I guess I'll put my two cents out there. Not necessarily as a yes/no.

I think a formal tech section would be great. If it had accurate, up-to-date info, pictures that weren't red "x"s, was easy to search, etc. The forum is good to a point, and sticky type threads are good to a point. Dynomite's efforts are certainly appreciated, but limited a bit by the fact that it's a forum. If the info in a post needs to be updated, only the original poster can do that, etc.

I'd only point out that this is a difficult problem to solve, especially without an ongoing effort to keep articles up-to-date as information or methods to fix these cars change/improve. This is the kind of thing companies with huge resources struggle to do well.

That said, I share the thought that more information that is created by registry members should be a membership perk. You don't want to contrive the value of being a member by like moving posts or something, but if the registry had elegant solutions behind a paid wall, that sounds excellent.

My other thought is this: Whatever form this new information takes, people will need to authenticate if it is member's only. My suggestion is that the current form of this is pretty poor. This forum has one username/password for use that is different from the one used to access zr1netregistry.com/members.htm And then of course there is some different set of people that are on the registry vs open listservs.

I personally think that the authentication should be standardized and fixed before adding more properties that will utilize it. A single account would be great, single sign-on would be even better. I'd have to think this would make the membership director's job a bit easier too, as now there are at least 3 things you need to set/unset as a person joins or leaves, the forum, the listserv, and sending them the "shared" info (which you can't actually revoke from them if they leave).

So to summarize:

I think a more formal solutions/maintenance section for members only would be excellent.

I am concerned it would be a large effort to keep it up to date and useful, and I'm concerned that the current method of identifying yourself as a member would make for a clunky experience.

Paul Workman · 09-11-2011

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Originally Posted by Dynomite

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OK....Paul......Jim (QB93Z) has told me it is fine for you to call my statements what you like....but beware...I now have a green light to do the same in return

Cliff...I don't know WTF you're talking about! WHAT STATEMENTS??? And, frankly I'm getting a little sick of this self-serving, unwarranted, never ending rant of yours over "Solutions" et al! But, I'm reeeeaaly getting tired of your oblique and sometimes direct shots at me, impugning me (and others) for things I/we didn't do or imply or say or whatever.

09-05-2011	#21
HAWAIIZR-1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Japan Posts: 3,096	Re: New Registry Tech Data Section: Members Only? So we have a Dynamite and a Dynomite. I have to look good for the "a" and the "o" in my old age. Cliff, I think basically Jerry is trying to step it up a notch and bring more quality to the organization as is Jim, David, George and the others. Can you imagine the amount of time them and others have put into this Registry? I know you can, I feel like I wish there were more I could do myself. Like Jerry said, it could have just been a conversation in the paying member side but the intent was to get input from all so no harm, no foul here. We somewhat already have that in the newsletter as I believe those tech articles should only be available to paying members. I have to do a research paper about the US Debt Crisis so you can feel sorry for me now. Take care, Craig __________________ Craig "ZR-1 NO KA 'OI" "ZR-1 ICHIBAN" 1995 #228 Black/Black with Dunn Heads ZR-1 owner since September 2003 ZR-1 Net Registry Founding Member #0074 NCM Lifetime Member #2048

09-05-2011	#22
Kevin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh Posts: 4,624	Re: New Registry Tech Data Section: Members Only? my membership in the registry comes as goes....the newsletter is nice, reading the old stuff is nice, and the shirts are nice. but what else do you get for your money besides a shirt and a newsletter? The main things are free, the friendship, carlisle, the gathering...there's no registry charge for it. It would be nice to have a little extra for the money you give to the registry __________________ It's not the car, it's the people - Doug Johnson 90 r/r "KEYS ON" nick named "T.L.B"

09-09-2011	#28
tomtom72 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA Posts: 4,609	Re: New Registry Tech Data Section: Members Only? Cliff, No I didn't edit my post..... I'm fairly sure it is as I originally wrote it...I see that my thoughts are not exactly clear though. I should have made a better demarcation between our Forum and the mothership ( net registry home site ).....senility I guess! I know what I meant, but it's not real clear to everyone else! My bad! Every time I see "members only" I think of the netregistry site.....not our forum. I will have to remember to remember that we have a "members only" section here as well. I had thought that the "Solutions" sticky here in our Technical Section would remain as viewable to all who come to our forum. I feel that Cliff's Notes is a great way to show possible ZR-1 buyers that if you buy one there is help that is not only a catalog of past issues & answers, but that it is a living section being constantly added to and updated as new issues come up. I had also thought that we would leave the "Maintenance" section at the mothership alone ( free as it is now ) to attract the same perspective buyers? Tom __________________ 1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member

09-11-2011	#29
Aurora40 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 2,704	Re: New Registry Tech Data Section: Members Only? I guess I'll put my two cents out there. Not necessarily as a yes/no. I think a formal tech section would be great. If it had accurate, up-to-date info, pictures that weren't red "x"s, was easy to search, etc. The forum is good to a point, and sticky type threads are good to a point. Dynomite's efforts are certainly appreciated, but limited a bit by the fact that it's a forum. If the info in a post needs to be updated, only the original poster can do that, etc. I'd only point out that this is a difficult problem to solve, especially without an ongoing effort to keep articles up-to-date as information or methods to fix these cars change/improve. This is the kind of thing companies with huge resources struggle to do well. That said, I share the thought that more information that is created by registry members should be a membership perk. You don't want to contrive the value of being a member by like moving posts or something, but if the registry had elegant solutions behind a paid wall, that sounds excellent. My other thought is this: Whatever form this new information takes, people will need to authenticate if it is member's only. My suggestion is that the current form of this is pretty poor. This forum has one username/password for use that is different from the one used to access zr1netregistry.com/members.htm And then of course there is some different set of people that are on the registry vs open listservs. I personally think that the authentication should be standardized and fixed before adding more properties that will utilize it. A single account would be great, single sign-on would be even better. I'd have to think this would make the membership director's job a bit easier too, as now there are at least 3 things you need to set/unset as a person joins or leaves, the forum, the listserv, and sending them the "shared" info (which you can't actually revoke from them if they leave). So to summarize: I think a more formal solutions/maintenance section for members only would be excellent. I am concerned it would be a large effort to keep it up to date and useful, and I'm concerned that the current method of identifying yourself as a member would make for a clunky experience.