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Old 12-13-2009   #21
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For the most part I think the vast majority of forum members are happy with how the forum is run, but we can always strive to do better.

Have a great Christmas and holiday.

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Have a great Christmas and Happy New Year.
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Old 12-13-2009   #22
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While I do not want to diminish peoples feelings/opinions, lets keep things in perspective when throwing around words like censorship. There are occasions that posts and/or entire threads are removed here just like in any forum. At times the reason is self evident, others it is not. While we are happy to try and explain why some of the posts might be removed or edited, it is a time consuming task. If we receive a reported post notification or PM, we look at the post and make a judgment call as to whether it should be left alone or removed. There are times the moderation team does not agree with the decisions of fellow moderators, but Dave, Larry, Dayrll and myself try hard to work together to run the forum fairly and efficiently. We have come a long way from the days only half a handful of people would visit here per day.

Including the CF link issue, I have noted that many posters here have said they have received PM's explaining why a thread or post has been removed. That alone should tell you something. Rest assured that is not typical of most forums out there, and it is something we take pride in.
That said, taking the time to explain every policy or reason why something is removed is time consuming, so it is not always done publicly. However anyone who sends a PM will always get a response from one of us even if it is not the response they had hoped for. There will be times we must agree to disagree and move on. In most cases it is not an earth shattering issue, but rather a particular person is upset and they become insistent that their point of view is correct.
Personally I strive to find common ground, but it is not always possible. What one person finds funny, another person gets offended. Remove the reported thread/post, and the other person is offended. Since we are all adults you hope that things will always be resolved amicably, but that is not always possible.

Hopefully this post has given you a small insight behind the scenes, so to speak. As always feel free to PM anyone on the moderation team and we will try to address your concerns.
For the most part I think the vast majority of forum members are happy with how the forum is run, but we can always strive to do better.

Have a great Christmas and holiday.

JIM
Jim,

You have done an incredible job with getting the forum to the level it is at now and we all appreciate it!!!! You started doing this when there was NO activity and now we have a great 20X the activity with new members joining every day.

I have asked that we "open" links to the CF before and hope we can consider doing this in the future. The Corvette Forum is known for "censorship", but they allow us to openly link up to our site and we do every chance we get! (including you Jim)

I don't agree with some deleting of posts (like Bob's talking about the CF link), but we all have bad days and say something that might be considered rude, which SHOULD be deleted. Moderators are needed, appreciated and our site is flurishing because of it. (Thank you!)

Quesion. Should we allow links to the Corvette Forum? Is this a question that the club members should decide?


Cheers

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Old 12-13-2009   #23
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I'm IP banned at cf so I don't really care about that issue and even if I wasn't I see no reason to post ZR-1 questions other then here or the list serve.

I too hae had posts hacked here and it sucks, I still don't totally understand why it was axed but it was. I had copied it from CF but gave full credit to who originally posted it, oh well the admin felt differently from me..
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Z Factor (Jim),

Thank you for taking the time to respond to this thread.

Thank you for spending the time and effort to be the administrator of the ZR-1 Net Registry Forum. And thank you to Dave, Larry and Dayrll for being moderators and devoting so much of their time as well.

I am very pleased to a member of the ZR-1 Net Registry and to have this Forum to participate in. I am pleased with the way the forum is run. I do have suggestions that I think will improve the forum:

I work hard to promote local events to encourage area ZR-1 owners to participate. In the regional section of the Forum, we post a lot of links to area shows. Check out thread numbers 9953, 9753, 9231, 8408, and 8472 as examples. The regional section of Corvette Forum has a lot of car show and events listed but since I can't post links to them, it is cumbersome to have to copy and duplicate all of the show info and contact points. Please remove the prohibition on linking to the Corvette Forum.

I think it would improve the Forum if members would fill out their biographical data. It think that it would be reasonable to require that at least a first name and location be displayed for all forum members. I can't see how that would compromise any personal security and it would help the Forum be a friendlier place. Since we are a fairly small group of people spread over a wide geographical area, we need all the help we can muster to get to know one another. A new owner posted recently with a problem with the ZR-1 he had just bought. Because he had filled out his location in his bio, I knew that he was very near one of our active members and they got hooked up to work on the problems. If some one wants to be on our Forum and isn't willing to provide a first name and a location, why do we want them here?

There should be a ZR-1 Net Registry members-only section of the Forum. I know that Dave has been working on it and I appreciate that.

I think the Forum should have a section devoted to NCRS. Many ZR-1 owners and members of the Net Registry participate in the NCRS program and there are some ZR-1 unique issues that would be appropriate to discuss on our Forum.

Thanks for listening,

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Old 12-14-2009   #25
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Can this issue be put to a vote by the membership?
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I think it would improve the Forum if members would fill out their biographical data. It think that it would be reasonable to require that at least a first name and location be displayed for all forum members. I can't see how that would compromise any personal security and it would help the Forum be a friendlier place.
I agree wholeheartedly with Jim on this one, and if a newbie posts a question, I look to see who he is first before answering. If there is no bio data, he gets no response.

How many new members are added daily? If one or two average, it might be worth the mods time to put them on restriction only able to post to a few topic areas or only a limited number of posts a day. But then I don't know what features vbulletin has.
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No bio??? No posting......
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No bio??? No posting......
I'm with you on this and have been for a number of years. I can't imagine why a member would not want that information known. Unless they are here to spam or create problems. Maybe others will post as to why they don't want to put this information in their bio.
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