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Old 04-10-2018   #21
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Mystic (Doug) is right on. Both he and I have had our 1990's judged. Getting the 1990/91 and 1993 manuals are a great start. I understand the NCRS is rewriting the 1990/91 manual to up date it. Not sure when it will be out.

As far as original parts your battery and possibly tires would receive a deduction, also items like air/oil filter, wipers, etc. if there were replaced.

NCRS used to have the judging sheets available if you are a member, I would check their website after you get a 1993 manual.

Best of luck, John
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Old 04-10-2018   #22
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Thanks for your input.
My 1993 is pretty much all original and has only 7950 miles on her.
Prior owners have replaced two batteries, oil filters, changed out exhaust system to BB Tri-Flo added high performance chip and new tires.
all else looks like new :-)
I have ordered the NCRS 1993-4 Judging Guide to help he in this process.
Since I have the 90 and 2011, I can have fun with them :-)
Thanks again
John
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Old 04-10-2018   #23
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Thanks for your input.
My 1993 is pretty much all original and has only 7950 miles on her.
Prior owners have replaced two batteries, oil filters, changed out exhaust system to BB Tri-Flo added high performance chip and new tires.
all else looks like new :-)
I have ordered the NCRS 1993-4 Judging Guide to help he in this process.
Since I have the 90 and 2011, I can have fun with them :-)
Thanks again
John


John,
The judging guide is indeed a fine place to begin your NCRS Journey!
I would also begin looking for chapter judging events close to your location.
You might just want to enter your car as it is. This way, you attend the event and observe your car being judged. Even with the changes that you mentioned, a car with under 8,000 miles should be an excellent candidate for Top Flight!
Regardless, once you have had your car judged, they will mail you your judging sheets. These sheets, combined with their explanations during the event, will give you a punch list specific to your car. you can then analyze each deduction, and determine a path to a higher score fixing the things that you elect to fix.
As Mystic stated, your car starts out with 4500 points. First or Top Flight requires a 94% or better, which means you may lose up to 270 points and still make it.
Some things are difficult or expensive to correct, or in the case of your exhaust system, you may just not want to remove what you enjoy.
Having the judging sheets enables you to look at each deduction, and choose what you want to do.
I have enjoyed each of my NCRS pursuits, very much!
I wish you the same!!
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Old 04-12-2018   #24
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Well add one more 1990 ZR-1 with now 2 Top Flights (Chapter and Regional), #277. Prior to me the car was owned in East Central Florida for it's entire life and has covered just under 12K miles. Cleaned it up and scoring very well. I will probably continue to go for a McLellan award.

Like many others I would love to know how many of the ZR-1 have awards and how many of the 24 Copper Convertibles have a Hill award but I doubt I'll ever know. I do think my Copper was the first Copper Convert to get that award and a Coupe earned one at the same show.

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Old 04-14-2018   #25
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Congratulations!
Well done!
Did same; thought about McLellan pursuit................. still thinking.............
Well, I could always start over again.................. thinking...............
No, think I will just drive it!
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Old 09-05-2018   #26
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I would like to have my car NCRS judge next year. Is there any documentation I need to follow for ZR1? How do I go about this? It is all new to me.


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Old 09-05-2018   #27
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Like many others I would love to know how many of the ZR-1 have awards and how many of the 24 Copper Convertibles have a Hill award but I doubt I'll ever know..... Joel
Good luck with that....
To quote the NCRS Judging Chairman
"We do not give out that information"

I've been looking for an honest answer to that
question for 9 years now! ☹️

Sounds like they're trying to figure out a way to make
people pay for that info???? $$$$
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Old 09-06-2018   #28
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Good luck with that....
To quote the NCRS Judging Chairman
"We do not give out that information"

I've been looking for an honest answer to that
question for 9 years now! ☹️

Sounds like they're trying to figure out a way to make
people pay for that info???? $$$$
Got to agree with Mystic.

To make matters worse, if you have your Z judged make sure it gets added to your ncrs profile. I had my car judged in 2010 and they lost my green sheet, (along with two other cars at the meet). The National blamed the chapter judging chairman and the chapter judging chairman blamed the national organization. Forced me to have the car judged again 8 years and 30,000 miles later. Neither wanted to take responsibility, the loser is the car owner.

Only suggestion I have is to buy (spend $) on a NCRS technical information manual for your model year car. I heard that the 1990/1991 manual with the yellow car on the cover (2nd ed.) is being revised. If you can, wait until the 3rd edition comes out if your car is the 1990/91 MY.

There are a number of us in the registry who have gone down this path, ask questions, this group (the registry) is an excellent resource.

Good luck.
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