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Dynomite · 10-14-2009

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Originally Posted by rhipsher

I've got everything back together and ready to go. Plug the key in and all the bells and whistles come on as normal. Turn the key and no start. The lights go a little dim when I try to crank it over which is normal. Three things come to mind. Either a problem with the starter. The new battery I just bought is not fully charged. And 3rd I might have gotten the two plugs that are side by side that plug into that device that bolts onto the under side of the plenum swapped. I fully expected at least one thing to prevent start up. Any ideas?

If the lights go dim when engaging the starter, that would indicate the starter selenoid has engaged and the starter is taking current with (poor battery connection, weak selenoid, poor primary connections on starter, or starter problem). The starter could be jammed somehow taking full current but not rotating. It appears that the starter is taking ALMOST full current if the lights go dim. Or the battery is undercharged with not enough voltage to rotate the starter. I would start with the battery and battery connections.

tomtom72 · 10-14-2009

Didn't Marc have a comment about if the starter was stuck that you could use a 3/8" metal rod & get it down thru the plenum and past the coil tray so it was up against the starter? Then you hit it with a hammer to jog the starter/ or the solenoid loose if it was hanging up?

Just a thought, as it sure sounds like something is eating up a lot of current. JMHO

rhipsher · 10-14-2009

The reason I suspect the starter is fried is before I removed the IH housings and coil pack I was spaying allot of break clean in that area and of course it all ends up pooling up in the valley. It was probably a good 3/8 to 1/2 deep before I removed the starter and when I saw it I thought Ooooh! I hope that didn't get into the starter. It was a mix of engine oil brake clean and dead bugs. I was going to test the starter before I put the plenum on because I feard that it might have got screwed up with the fluid that was in the valley. I know for a fact that I connected everything. There's only two wires that go to the starter. The big red wire and a small one that connects right in front of the coil pack. How do I test the starter to see if it's bye bye.

carter200 · 10-14-2009

Take the starter to Autozone and they'll test for free.......

rhipsher · 10-14-2009

Now if the starter is dead is it something that I can pick up locally or is it another specialty item I have to order?

dbriana · 10-14-2009

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Originally Posted by rhipsher

Now if the starter is dead is it something that I can pick up locally or is it another specialty item I have to order?

Autozone shows one for $190 including a $70 core charge but may have to order depending on location.

rhipsher · 10-14-2009

I just talked to Corey and he said its a very good possibility that fluid made it into the starter. He said it could be stuck and if you've checked the purple wire going to it and its got power every time you turn the key fully then the starter is just not turning. He said parts lady is going to have the best price on them.

rhipsher · 10-14-2009

WooHoo! I was right. It was the starter. I took the plenum off and unbolted the coil pack and took a 1/2 drive extension and a 3lbs sledge hammer and gave it 3 good whacks in about three different spots. Hopped in and it turned right over.

I guess the combination of it sitting for 6 months and possibly getting some fluid in it caused it to stick. But auto zone has a starter for $120+$70 core charge just like you said. If I order it before 2:00pm it will be here tomorrow.I don't think I'll need it unless this starter gets stuck again and leaves me stranded

rhipsher · 10-14-2009

WooHoo! I was right. It was the starter. I took the plenum off and unbolted the coil pack and took a 1/2 drive extension and a 3lbs sledge hammer and gave it 3 good whacks in about three different spots. Hopped in and it turned right over.

I guess the combination of it sitting for 6 months and possibly getting some fluid in it caused it to stick. But auto zone has a starter for $120+$70 core charge just like you said. If I order it before 2:00pm it will be here tomorrow.I don't think I'll need it unless this starter gets stuck again and leaves me stranded

Hell! It's only $120 for a tow right.

-=Jeff=- · 10-14-2009

you must have been so happy you posted it twice

Glad you fixed it

10-14-2009	#12
tomtom72 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA Posts: 4,645	Re: Need some ideas. Didn't Marc have a comment about if the starter was stuck that you could use a 3/8" metal rod & get it down thru the plenum and past the coil tray so it was up against the starter? Then you hit it with a hammer to jog the starter/ or the solenoid loose if it was hanging up? Just a thought, as it sure sounds like something is eating up a lot of current. JMHO __________________ 1990 ZR-1, Black/grey, #2233, stock. ZR-1 Net Reg Founding Member #316 & NCM member

10-14-2009	#13
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: Need some ideas. The reason I suspect the starter is fried is before I removed the IH housings and coil pack I was spaying allot of break clean in that area and of course it all ends up pooling up in the valley. It was probably a good 3/8 to 1/2 deep before I removed the starter and when I saw it I thought Ooooh! I hope that didn't get into the starter. It was a mix of engine oil brake clean and dead bugs. I was going to test the starter before I put the plenum on because I feard that it might have got screwed up with the fluid that was in the valley. I know for a fact that I connected everything. There's only two wires that go to the starter. The big red wire and a small one that connects right in front of the coil pack. How do I test the starter to see if it's bye bye.

10-14-2009	#14
carter200 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,431	Re: Need some ideas. Take the starter to Autozone and they'll test for free....... __________________ 95 ZR-1 BLK/Gry #392 LT5 Reg# 868 RIP ZR1NET Founding Mem #155

10-14-2009	#15
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: Need some ideas. Now if the starter is dead is it something that I can pick up locally or is it another specialty item I have to order?

10-14-2009	#17
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: Need some ideas. I just talked to Corey and he said its a very good possibility that fluid made it into the starter. He said it could be stuck and if you've checked the purple wire going to it and its got power every time you turn the key fully then the starter is just not turning. He said parts lady is going to have the best price on them.

10-14-2009	#18
rhipsher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston 90 Red ZR-1 Posts: 2,320	Re: Need some ideas. WooHoo! I was right. It was the starter. I took the plenum off and unbolted the coil pack and took a 1/2 drive extension and a 3lbs sledge hammer and gave it 3 good whacks in about three different spots. Hopped in and it turned right over. I guess the combination of it sitting for 6 months and possibly getting some fluid in it caused it to stick. But auto zone has a starter for $120+$70 core charge just like you said. If I order it before 2:00pm it will be here tomorrow.I don't think I'll need it unless this starter gets stuck again and leaves me stranded

10-14-2009	#20
-=Jeff=- Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bartlett, IL Posts: 7,169	Re: Need some ideas. you must have been so happy you posted it twice Glad you fixed it __________________ 1990 Corvette ZR-1 #1051 Watson Headers (2" Primary) - Flowmaster Cats - Borla Catback Late Model IH - Plenum Coilovers - 4.10s Custom Interior NCM Lifetime Member #978